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Started by diglady, March 29, 2016, 03:27:58 PM

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diglady

Apparently there is no meaning. It was a typo! So I have read.

halkel

Well Sandy, if you expected Trump to be run out of town from yesterdays hearings I am sure you were sorely disappointed. (no history made here, move along)

Comey said nothing new except that he is a leaker, so much for his "honesty".

Trump's "tapes" tweet prompted Comey to leak memos

https://www.axios.com/comey-testifies-in-front-of-senate-intel-committee-live-updates-2436847918.html

I am surprised that this big bad FBI man didn't bring violins along to accompany some of his testimony.  What a cry baby.

And then .......

Comey, Twitter Users ‘A Little Confused’ By McCain’s Questions During Hearing

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/06/08/john-mccain-questions-comey/

"“I’m a little confused senator,” Comey said."

Of course he was, since he didn't want to go there..........




June Drabek

Hal, I watched it for two and a half hours. Really sad to find that even our F.B.I. has weaklings running it. Had it on for a few minutes this morning and shut it down. I wasn't feeling good to begin with..we don't need more bad news.
As long as we are here, let's dance.

SCFSue

Any thoughts on 2 events yesterday?  The terrible shooting of Republicans at a softball field and Jeff Sessions testimony before Congress?  I'd like to know what everyone thinks about these 2 things.

SCFSue

halkel

Sue, be nice to know your thoughts.

June Drabek

Here we go again. Shoot down Jeff Sessions verbally without even wondering what he discussed..if he did...with this Russian person. We are all living in the same world. Before we pronounce judgement, let us hear from J. Sessions. I do not hesitate to speak to anyone......that does not mean I am collaborating with an enemy to wreck havoc on my country. Let's hear what, why, where, when, before we fall into the pit of  destroy, destroy, destroy.
As long as we are here, let's dance.

halkel

June/Sue, June Sessions has spoken:
http://www.newsy.com/stories/jeff-sessions-pushes-back-on-suggestions-of-collusion/

Read and listen to his testimony.

Now Sue you ask how some of us felt about what is going on in Washington, the shooting of the Congressman and others and Jeff Sessions testimony.

Sue I think we are witnessing the attempted destruction of our Constitutional government by a group of people who spew nothing but absolute lies and are attempting to corrupt every aspect of our government, let me re-phase that, they have corrupted every aspect of government from the lowest civil servant to our highest court and every department of our government.  The Democrats have not accepted that the people spoke and elected Donald Trump, the members of Congress and cannot or will not accept that fact and still claim Hillary Clinton was cheated since she won the popular vote.  Take the two biggest, most populist states out of the mix and you will see she didn't win much of anything.  By the way that is the reason we conduct our elections as we do, electoral college, to keep the larger states from electing our president.

Lets review a little bit.  Russian had no affect on our elections.  Hillary's emails were not "publicly" hacked and John Podesta's email was not hacked, it was revealed because he fell for a phishing scheme and gave up his password.  The DNC email maybe was hacked or not.  The FBI was not allowed to examine their servers, but from the emails gleamed it was discovered that Hillary and her merry henchman, Schultz, had a plot to steal the nomination from crazy Bernie, which she did and Schultz was sent packing.  We also learned that Hillary mishandled classified material, but according to the brilliant FBI director, didn't intend to disclose classified material, although she did, me, back in my military days would have not been placed in jail but under it for doing what she did. 

Now what is going on with Trump and his so called evil exploits.  We they cant make collusion stick, so now they are trying to make "obstruction" case against him for "Possibly" saying he "hoped" Comey could see some way to drop charges against Flynn after telling Trump he was not the object of any investigation, three times over a period of three months, Comey also told members of Congress of this fact, but didn't stop the Democrats from continuing to stir up the populace that Trump was more than likely guilty of collusion.

IMO the Democrats, the epitome of fairness, from continually stirring the pot and trying to arouse public opinion against Trump and the Republicans, along with most liberal, left wing media, to add lie after lie (false news).  Well they are reaching their followers and yesterday was a good example of that 'outreach program".

I could go on and on but I suspect what I have said will be ignored and doubt seriously if any of my "admirers" will even respond, at least with any factual rebuttals.  There has not been one shred of evidence  against Trump presented of discovered with all the investigations only lies and more lies.

And Trump continues to do one hell of a job getting this country back on track although you would never know that without a lot of digging.  By the way did you read that he has almost wiped out the MS-13 gang in NY state?

http://nypost.com/2017/06/14/trumps-pledge-to-wipe-out-ms-13-gang-paying-off-in-ny/


halkel

Well as I suspected, no takers on my post.  Cat got your tongue?  I swear I do not understand some of you folks.




June Drabek

Hal, I so agree with all you said, there was nothing for me to reply. All I could add would be my personal thoughts of the current group of Democrat Losers.  Nancy Pelosi is another big fake. How she ever got where she is now is a minor miracle. I don't think she even knows what she is saying half the time.
As long as we are here, let's dance.

SCFSue

No need to comment as you Hal and June seem to have all the answers you want.

SCFSue

June Drabek

#490
Sue, I am sorry if you feel as you do. I can only speak for myself, but unless you express YOUR ideas and thoughts, how can we carry on a conversation.? Please. Share with us. I am interested it what the Democratic party thinks and wants.. we don't have to agree, but sharing is essential in my way of thinking.
As long as we are here, let's dance.

halkel

Sue. you exhibit the very traits I spoke of in my earlier post.  You wish to portray me and of all people June, as some kind of know it all.  And this is after asking for opinions.  Maybe you should have phrased your post to the something like: you would like opinions from all but Hal and June.

I resent the heck out of your innuendo about June, she is one of the kindest, gentlest ladies I have had the pleasure of knowing.  Her post was nothing but a simple affirmation that she has similar thoughts about the Liberal Democratic party and for that you slam her.  ]

June, your wondering about Pelosi, look up her background and you will see her father, Thomas D'Alesandro Jr., was a big Democrat in the Roosevelt administration and also in Maryland.  Nancy's bio can be found here: http://www.notablebiographies.com/news/Ow-Sh/Pelosi-Nancy.html

And Sue, don't use my answer as an excuse not to express your views, in the future I will disregard any request you make for comments.  But it would be nice to have some factual postings that "attempted" to rebut my postings along with links.  Personal attacks seemed to be the norm for Liberals.


June Drabek

Sue, when you posted the name of Jeff Sessions, I was not familiar with his position, so I went to google  and typed in his name and this is the first thing that came up. 

http://www.commoncause.org/take-action/act/breaking-jeff-sessions-lied-to-congress-secret-meetings-russia-demand-resignation.   

It seemed so inflammatory so it sparked my reply. What is your opinion ?
As long as we are here, let's dance.

diglady

IMO, that counts for nothing: Liberals are trying their best to undermine any attempt at stability  or civility within government- heck within the country.

Sessions has a long history in WDC do you think that he would collude with our enemies? Liberals are inferring he is a traitor! Really!!

Obstruction of justice? Was there an obstruction? Please tell me where and when.

Did anyone see the nasty 'cartoon' by Mike Lester of the Washington Post on Saturday?  There is a man saying, " Honey, where's the Trump Assassination Fantasy Channel?"  Woman on the ground doing push ups says "which one?"

So civil! So unifying!

Liberals want to kill off anyone who disagrees with them. I have liberal friends and when it comes to politics they are obscene! I don't talk /discuss politics with them. We used to discuss issues but not since Hillary and Obama were on the scene. 

June Drabek

Diglady, your post says exactly the way that article made me feel, but I didn't express it as well as you did. It seems like there is so much hatred out there, that it says, "kill, kill, kill." Don't ask questions, don't discuss or rationalize.....just jump in and smear someone else.
As long as we are here, let's dance.

halkel

WWII said dig. Well said.

halkel

What we are all about, wonder if any of our leaders, except Donald J. Trump, would have the guts to say this.


IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. â€" That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, â€" That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. â€" Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. â€" And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

New Hampshire:
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton

Massachusetts:
John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry

Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery

Connecticut:
Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott

New York:
William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris

New Jersey:
Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark

Pennsylvania:
Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross

Delaware:
Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean

Maryland:
Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton

Virginia:
George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton

North Carolina:
William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn

South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton

Georgia:
Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton

God Bless Our Wonderful Country and it's people.



Beverly

HappyIndependence Day!



halkel

Okay, it is now summertime, but, football season will soon be here and I am sure we will have the same sorry bunch "demonstrating" their hatred for a country and people that allows them to earn MILLIONS of dollars and show their ass every Sunday.

Received this in my email this morning.  Quote:


        I don’t think this could have been said any better and it definitely is about time someone said it.  Hopefully,
        this will go out over EVERY computer in the U.S. and maybe, just maybe, these sports people will get the
        message of just how ridiculous they are to disrespect our flag, and how little what they do in sports compare
        to what our great military has done for this country.
         
         
        NFL protesting the flag - POWERFUL!!

         
                                              Image result for Ret Marine Col. Jeffery Powers
        Ret. Marine Col. Jeffery Powers wrote to the NFL
        commissioners the following:

         
        Commissioners, I’ve been a season pass holder at Yankee Stadium, Yale Bowl and the Giants Stadium.
        I missed the ’90-’91 season because I was with a battalion of Marines in Desert Storm. 14 of my wonderful Marines returned home with the American Flag draped across their lifeless bodies. My last conversation with one of them, Sgt. Garrett Mongrella was about how our Giants were going to the Super Bowl. He never got to see it.

         
        Many friends, Marines, and Special Forces Soldiers who worked with or for me through the years returned home with the American Flag draped over their coffins.

         
        Now I watch multi-millionaire athletes who never did anything in their lives but play a game, disrespect what brave Americans fought and died for. They are essentially spitting in the faces and on the graves of real men, men who have actually done something for this country besides playing with a ball and believing they’re something special! They’re not! My Marines and Soldiers were!

         
        You are complicit in this! You’ll fine players for large and small infractions but you lack the moral courage and respect for our nation and the fallen to put an immediate stop to this. Yes, I know, it’s their 1st Amendment right to behave in such a despicable manner.

         
                                       
        What would happen if they came out and disrespected you or the refs publicly?

         
        I observed a player getting a personal foul for twerking in the end zone after scoring. I guess that’s much worse than disrespecting the flag and our National  Anthem. Hmmmmm, isn’t it his 1st Amendment right to express himself like an idiot in the end zone?

         
        Why is taunting not allowed yet taunting America is OK? You fine players for wearing 9-11 commemorative shoes yet you allow scum on the sidelines to sit, kneel or pump their pathetic fist in the air. They are so deprived with their multi-million dollar contracts for playing a freaking game!

         
        You condone it all by your refusal to act. You’re just as bad and disgusting as they are. I hope Americans boycott any sponsor who supports that rabble you call the NFL. I hope they turn off the TV when any team that allowed this disrespect to occur, without consequence, on the sidelines. I applaud those who have not.

         
        Legends and heroes do NOT wear shoulder pads. They wear body armor and carry rifles
        They make minimum wage and spend months and years away from their families. They don’t do it for an hour on Sunday. They do it 24/7 often with lead, not footballs, coming in their direction. They watch their brothers carted off in pieces not on a gurney to get their knee iced. They don’t even have ice! Many don’t have legs or arms.

         
        Some wear blue and risk their lives daily on the streets of America. They wear fire helmets and go upstairs into the fire rather than down to safety. On 9-11, hundreds vanished. They are the heroes.

         
        I hope that your high paid protesting pretty boys and you look in that mirror when you shave tomorrow and see what you really are, legends in your own minds. You need to hit the road and take those worms with you!

         
        Time to change the channel.

         
        Powers originally sent his letter to former Florida congressman Allen West. West then posted the letter on his news website.

         
        As of last week, at least 18 NFL player had protested the anthem by either kneeling during the anthem or raising their fists, according to USA Today Sports.

         
            If you agree with what he said please pass this on.

Unquote.




June Drabek

Thanks Hal, this was so needed ! I wish our Newscasters would pick up on it and plaster it on all the programs. I am not ashamed of our country, but I am sure shamed by some of it's citizens.
As long as we are here, let's dance.

halkel

For my Liberal friends who wonder about "US"

                "US" by Paul Genova

                 
                  (Mr Paul Genova has been President and Chief Operating Officer of Wireless Telecom Group Inc. since June 30, 2016.
                 
                 
                I haven't said too much about this election since the start....but this is how I feel....

                  I'm noticing that a lot of people aren't graciously accepting the fact that their candidate lost.
                In fact you seem to be posting even more hateful things about those who voted for Trump.

                  Some are apparently "triggered" because they are posting how "sick" you feel about the results.

                  How did this happen you ask? Well here is how it happened!
                 
                You created "us" when you attacked our freedom of speech.

                  You created "us" when you attacked our right to bear arms.

                  You created "us" when you attacked our Christian beliefs.

                  You created "us" when you constantly referred to us as racists.

                  You created "us" when you constantly called us xenophobic.
                 
                You created "us" when you told us to get on board or get out of the way.

                You created "us" when you attacked our flag

                  You created "us" when you took God out of our schools.

                  You created "us" when you confused women's rights with feminism.

                  You created "us" when you began to emasculate men.

                  You created "us" when you decided to make our children soft.

                You created "us" when you decided to vote for progressive ideals.

                  You created "us" when you attacked our way of life.

                You created "us" when you decided to let our government get out of control.

                  You created "us" the silent majority

                  You created "us" when you began murdering innocent law enforcement officers.

                  You created "us" when you lied and said we could keep our insurance plans and our doctors.

                  You created "us" when you allowed our jobs to continue to leave our country.

                You created "us" when you took a knee, or stayed seated or didn't remove your hat during our National Anthem.

                You created "us" when you forced us to buy health care and then financially penalized us for not participating.


                        And we became fed up and we pushed back and spoke up.
                  And we did it with ballots, not bullets.
                  With ballots, not riots.
                  With ballots, not looting.
                  With ballots, not blocking traffic.
                  With ballots, not fires, except the one you started inside of "us"

                  "YOU" created "US".

                  It really is just that simple.

             
             

     
     
     






June Drabek

As long as we are here, let's dance.

Sandy

 :bash:  :bash:  :bash: 

Last  night John McCain killed
the GOP’s health-care debacle 


HOORAY!!!!
:bash:  :bash:  :bash: 
  "It pays to keep an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out."

― Carl Sagan

SCFSue

AMEN to that, Sandy!  I hope they can now agree on something sensible for all Americans.

SCFSue

halkel

Sue, Sandy, what do you call sensible?  High premiums and high deductible like Obama Care?


June Drabek

If I recall correctly when Obama care came out there were so many pages to the thing that no one bothered to read it. Now I'm wondering what Pres. Trump had in mind for his style ? Has anyone read it ? How can people vote or not vote on something they have not read ?
As long as we are here, let's dance.

SCFSue

I'm guessing that other posters here have Medicare and perhaps Tricare for Life as I do, so little of what was passed or proposed applies to us.  However, I have children who have to pay a great deal for insurance and I would hope that they could get relief from legislation that could be helpful to them and other Americans. 

I live in Alabama and many of our lowest income families have depended on Medicaid for help with health problems.  I understand that much of that relief has or is being scrapped by Congress.  If I am mistaken, please feel free to enlighten me.

Sue

diglady

#507
Liberals-here is something for you to think about:

Best response I have seen in regards to the the negative feedback about transgenders being banned again from the military... From Sgt. Robert Brown US Army

Nobody has a "right" to serve in the Military.   Nobody!   

What makes people think the Military is an equal opportunity employer?    Very far from it.   

The Military uses prejudice regularly and consistently to deny citizens from joining for being too old or too young, too fat or too skinny, too tall or too short.   

Citizens are denied for having flat feet, or for missing or additional fingers.   Poor eyesight will disqualify you, as well as bad teeth.   Malnourished?   Drug addiction?   Bad back?   

Criminal history?    Low IQ?   Anxiety?    Phobias?   Hearing damage?   Hear voices in your head?    Self-identify as a Unicorn?   Need a special access ramp for your wheelchair?   Can't run the required course in the required time?   Can't do the required number of push ups ?

Not really a "morning person" and refuse to get out of bed before noon?     

All can be reasons for denial.   

The Military has one job.    War.    Anything else is a distraction and a liability.   

Did someone just scream "That isn't Fair"?    War is VERY unfair, there are no exceptions made for being special or challenged or socially wonderful.   

YOU change yourself to meet Military standards.   Not the other way around.   

I say again:    You don't change the Military... you must change yourself.   

The Military doesn't need to accommodate anyone with special issues.    The Military needs to Win Wars.   

If any of your personal issues are a liability that detract from readiness or lethality... Thank you for applying and good luck in future endeavors.   Who's next in line?
In God We Trust   

June Drabek

Diglady, thank you. I find your post very apt, and I appreciate what you taught us.
As long as we are here, let's dance.

periwinkle

#509
Dear diglady,

I consider myself a "liberal" (whatever that is supposed to mean) or by a better definition, a progressive-minded Democrat. That is, I identify myself with the Democratic Party. Not the DEMOCRAT  Party, as many Conservatives prefer to call it.

But back to the subject at hand. I cannot thank you for what you have taught me because you have taught me nothing, although I thank you for trying! Your post on the military is a veritable runaway train of bad conflation. I don't need to ponder it, a quick read-through reveals its inconsistencies.

The military is not an employer. More an enforcer. Its purpose - and it is very serious about this purpose - is to instill training in its recruits, order and obedience among its ranks, and to prosecute wars.

Yes, war is serious, and no, it isn't "fair". And, by the way, just who the hell said it was "fair"? Or that it should, or could be fair, or that it has ever pretended to be fair. As I  recall the attitude of the military: Don't like it? Tough **** unfair, my bleeping *** Now fall in line!

And expanding on that vein, aren't the terms "fair/unfair" a rather childish way of referring to the life/death undertaking that is WAR? I'm sure I have heard that term - UNFAIR - used before, and recently too, but just can't place where. Maybe one of you can help me place it.

But back once again to the point being driven here! No, no one has screamed that it isn't fair to deny someone (not too short or tall or too fat or skinny, or otherwise physically challenged or in failing health) the right to join the military service because nature somehow mixed up the male/female divide. 

Many have protested a change in policy, but no one has screamed anything. Ridiculous wording. My suggestion would be: Help them change what needs to be changed and then let them get on with the service they signed up for.

Can we please just use some common sense here? How many seniors and children, flat-footed or not, or sight-challenged, rotten-toothed, drug-addicted, malnourished Americans are beating on the doors of military recruiters? Are we to suppose that people would ignore the fact that an aching back or wheel-chair would be of small service carrying a heavy pack on a 15-mile hike?

If I may add a personal anecdote: a friend of mine was accepted by the Marine Corps at the age of 18 with a mouthful rotten and compromised teeth. Their dentist pulled them ALL and gave him false chompers. They must have worked fine as he did two tours in Viet Nam with no apparent problem. But that was sixty years ago. Maybe they wouldn't do that today.