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Medical Corner / Re: Bosom Buddies
Last post by jane - Today at 02:38:32 PMBon voyage, Sharon and John. That seating choice at Delta sounds perfect! It's a long flight.
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Village Clubhouse~Place For Fun! / Re: Four Letter Word Game -Ch...
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Town Talk / Re: Corona Virus
Last post by patricia19 - Today at 12:46:03 PMChanging your mind about something as important as vaccination isn't a sign of weakness – being open to new information is the smart way to make choices
"Social psychologists know that, on the one hand, people are motivated to maintain consistency across their beliefs. Because people want their web of beliefs to be coherent, they tend to give a lot of weight to beliefs that are consistent with their overall worldview and to discount those that are contradictory. As a result, people will continue to hold on to a set of beliefs even in the face of mounting evidence that they should revise what they think.
Psychologists describe this unconscious strategy as a way for people to minimize any cognitive dissonance they experience – when things don't add up, it can be disturbing, so to avoid those uncomfortable feelings, they ignore what doesn't fit well with their existing beliefs as a way to maintain balance.
In the context of COVID-19, for example, someone who is predisposed to dislike the vaccine will give little weight to new evidence of vaccine effectiveness, because that evidence contradicts their current worldview.
Eventually, though, enough counterevidence can lead to what psychologists call a shift in coherence, in which people can come to believe that their initial viewpoint was wrong. But additional social forces such as the desire to appear consistent or to show solidarity with a community can still lead people to resist changing their beliefs and behavior."
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Soda Shoppe / Re: Soda Shoppe for Septemb...
Last post by Lloyd Hammond - Today at 12:29:11 PMGood morning everyone. Gloria I Hope i am reading you wrong sounds Like you are ready to give up. do not do that. I am sure we all love you and want to keep you as long as we can. I am ready to slow down and sell the RV. but I plan on being careful and doing work in the shop and make a bunch of bee hives. son in law has got bees and they are doing good I used to have bees and want to again. bob came in stole my last hive. they had swarmed away but it was full of honey. I was going to take most of the honey out but leave a few frames and get more bees I still plan on doing that. bees are very high now over $200. per swarm of them. But I am going to bite the bullet and get some anyway. I have the equipment and know how to do that. I also have the Lumber to do it. I had another good night sleep A lot of wake time thinking In the Middle but 10.5 hours according to the tattle tail. sun Is very bright,not a cloud in sight here and 69º now. Have a good day see you all later.
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Soap Box Corner / Re: Politics
Last post by patricia19 - Today at 12:22:38 PMSpeaking of that fringe, an article from The Conversation by Robert Pape, Professor of Political Science, University of Chicago
"A recent Washington demonstration supporting those charged with crimes for the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol fizzled, with no more than 200 demonstrators showing up. The organizers had promised 700 people would turn out – or more.
But the threat from far-right insurrectionists is not over.
For months, my colleagues and I at the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats have been tracking insurrectionist sentiments in U.S. adults, most recently in surveys in June. We have found that 47 million American adults – nearly 1 in 5 – agree with the statement that "the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president." Of those, 21 million also agree that "use of force is justified to restore Donald J. Trump to the presidency."
Our survey found that many of these 21 million people with insurrectionist sentiments have the capacity for violent mobilization. At least 7 million of them already own a gun, and at least 3 million have served in the U.S. military and so have lethal skills. Of those 21 million, 6 million said they supported right-wing militias and extremist groups, and 1 million said they are themselves or personally know a member of such a group, including the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.
Extreme beliefs
This polling found that 9% of American adults say they agree with the statement that "Use of force is justified to restore Donald J. Trump to the presidency." And 25% of adults either strongly or somewhat agree with the statement that "The 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president."
Overall, 8% of the survey participants share both of those views.
The margin of error of this survey was plus or minus 4 percentage points. So when calculating the number of the 258 million adult Americans who hold these views, we looked at the range of between 4% and 12% – which gave us between 10 million and 31 million. The best single figure is the middle of that range, 21 million.
People who said force is justified to restore Trump were consistent in their insurrectionist sentiments: Of them, 90% also see Biden as illegitimate, and 68% also think force may be needed to preserve America's traditional way of life.
The fringe moving into the mainstream
Combined with their military experience, gun ownership and connections to extremist groups and militias, this signals the existence of significant mainstream support in America for a violent insurrection.
This group of 21 million who agree both that force is justified to restore Trump and that Biden is an illegitimate president has two additional views that are also on the fringes of mainstream society:
63% agree with the statement that "African American people or Hispanic people in our country will eventually have more rights than whites" – a belief sometimes called "the Great Replacement."
54% agree that "A secret group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles is ruling the US government," which is the key belief in the QAnon movement.
Some people with insurrectionist sentiments hold one of these political views but not the other, suggesting there are multiple ways of thinking that lead a person toward the insurrectionist movement.
Broader support
This latest research reinforces our previous findings, that the Jan. 6 insurrection represents a far more mainstream movement than earlier instances of right-wing extremism across the country. Those events, mostly limited to white supremacist and militia groups, saw more than 100 individuals arrested from 2015 to 2020. But just 14% of those arrested for their actions on Jan. 6 are members of those groups. More than half are business owners or middle-aged white-collar professionals, and only 7% are unemployed.
There is no way to say for sure when – or even whether – these insurrectionists will take action. On Jan. 6, it took clear direction from Donald Trump and other political leaders to turn these dangerous sentiments into a violent reality. But the movement itself is larger and more complex than many people might like to think."
https://tinyurl.com/n3s2xk6n
"A recent Washington demonstration supporting those charged with crimes for the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol fizzled, with no more than 200 demonstrators showing up. The organizers had promised 700 people would turn out – or more.
But the threat from far-right insurrectionists is not over.
For months, my colleagues and I at the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats have been tracking insurrectionist sentiments in U.S. adults, most recently in surveys in June. We have found that 47 million American adults – nearly 1 in 5 – agree with the statement that "the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president." Of those, 21 million also agree that "use of force is justified to restore Donald J. Trump to the presidency."
Our survey found that many of these 21 million people with insurrectionist sentiments have the capacity for violent mobilization. At least 7 million of them already own a gun, and at least 3 million have served in the U.S. military and so have lethal skills. Of those 21 million, 6 million said they supported right-wing militias and extremist groups, and 1 million said they are themselves or personally know a member of such a group, including the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.
Extreme beliefs
This polling found that 9% of American adults say they agree with the statement that "Use of force is justified to restore Donald J. Trump to the presidency." And 25% of adults either strongly or somewhat agree with the statement that "The 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president."
Overall, 8% of the survey participants share both of those views.
The margin of error of this survey was plus or minus 4 percentage points. So when calculating the number of the 258 million adult Americans who hold these views, we looked at the range of between 4% and 12% – which gave us between 10 million and 31 million. The best single figure is the middle of that range, 21 million.
People who said force is justified to restore Trump were consistent in their insurrectionist sentiments: Of them, 90% also see Biden as illegitimate, and 68% also think force may be needed to preserve America's traditional way of life.
The fringe moving into the mainstream
Combined with their military experience, gun ownership and connections to extremist groups and militias, this signals the existence of significant mainstream support in America for a violent insurrection.
This group of 21 million who agree both that force is justified to restore Trump and that Biden is an illegitimate president has two additional views that are also on the fringes of mainstream society:
63% agree with the statement that "African American people or Hispanic people in our country will eventually have more rights than whites" – a belief sometimes called "the Great Replacement."
54% agree that "A secret group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles is ruling the US government," which is the key belief in the QAnon movement.
Some people with insurrectionist sentiments hold one of these political views but not the other, suggesting there are multiple ways of thinking that lead a person toward the insurrectionist movement.
Broader support
This latest research reinforces our previous findings, that the Jan. 6 insurrection represents a far more mainstream movement than earlier instances of right-wing extremism across the country. Those events, mostly limited to white supremacist and militia groups, saw more than 100 individuals arrested from 2015 to 2020. But just 14% of those arrested for their actions on Jan. 6 are members of those groups. More than half are business owners or middle-aged white-collar professionals, and only 7% are unemployed.
There is no way to say for sure when – or even whether – these insurrectionists will take action. On Jan. 6, it took clear direction from Donald Trump and other political leaders to turn these dangerous sentiments into a violent reality. But the movement itself is larger and more complex than many people might like to think."
https://tinyurl.com/n3s2xk6n
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Soda Shoppe / Re: Soda Shoppe for Septemb...
Last post by Amy - Today at 12:19:14 PMOh Patricia, you are so chatty!!! I see your on the phone and hope you get to talk to a real person.
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Soap Box Corner / Re: Politics
Last post by patricia19 - Today at 11:57:31 AMI saw that and posted it in Covid. Power-hungry, empty-pocketed fools lead my state. While our hospitals are overrun, primary care rationed, people dying, thousands of new cases daily, the politicians continue to bleat about personal choice because the fringe fills those empty pockets!
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Soda Shoppe / Re: Soda Shoppe for Septemb...
Last post by Shirley - Today at 11:57:17 AMMy daughter's Crohn's wasn't diagnosed until she already had 2 kids, but she had an ongoing infection that was a different problem. Her oldest son was interning at NASA when his problem started big time, in the hospital with doctors suspecting appendicitis, after days they said they were going to do "exploritory surgery" & he insisted they call his mother first. His STATS were exactly same as hers before her first surgery (an engineer's mind & records). They released him from that hospital in Houston & sent him to one that specalized in Crohn's.
Right now SHE is going thru massive tests to find her exact stage, all doctors want her to try another new med but she is more than leary. One they put her on earlier brought on "Chemically induced Lupus" & that can be fatal, so she told her Dr she was going off it. Her Dr. said she'd have to find a new Dr & daughter said "fine". She went off the drug & Lupus was gone in next tests... Dr tried to say it NEVER was but daughter said "you want to see the screen shot of the tests?" She always kept track of all details. Dr backed off.
This new med is supposed to not be anything like the other but there is one side effect possibility that scares me... "it can cause a brain reaction that is irreversable". Only reason she is considering taking is "if it works it could help her sons & daughters". Because with the first surgery they removed a piece of the large and piece of the small intestine & the valve that connects them, she has one med she must take the rest of her life. One doctor explained she could just wait until the need to remove the next "hot spot" but will have the danger of how much can they remove in her life time & still be okay? Hard choice & I do not advise. She has been treated & examined at MAYO & other states where they lived, her insurance offers the best possible. Tell Bridget this never kept her from traveling the world for her job, she was just prepared to deal with hand she was dealt. She was born in Jan of '56 so has a lifetime of dealing already. 3 of her 4 kids are engineers & the 4th an "IT" person, she retired 2-3 years ago & keeps busy flying all over the US to visit her 5 grands (& kids).
Gloria, my daughter is in town for some activities of her grands so had daytime to spare & helped me go thru those kitchen cabinets. I eagerly pushed her to take anything that had a happy memory "except the 2 cast iron Dutch ovens" that I bake the eye of round roasts in to grind for meat spread. She gets those when I'm done cooking! This other pile is waiting for the last kid to have a look but all were told that "everything donates" that they don't take! I decided they can do their deciding now easier than when planning a funeral.
Waiting for 3 phone calls to be returned from people supposed to do jobs for me. Now days it seems anyone hired to do a job acts like they are doing you a favor instead of getting paid for doing a job!
Amy, the one thing my daughter discovered over the years is that "if something doesn't sound good" in her head it won't set well with the tummy, so she doesn't eat. Times she can get away with food I would not dare touch & she'll have no reaction. I'm convinced each person's body has to deal with what it tolerates & no 2 people alike when dealing with Crohn's.
Got to get out & vac the pool before it gets too hot. Nice cool morning but kept waiting on those phone calls & now I've shot the cool part of the day!
Right now SHE is going thru massive tests to find her exact stage, all doctors want her to try another new med but she is more than leary. One they put her on earlier brought on "Chemically induced Lupus" & that can be fatal, so she told her Dr she was going off it. Her Dr. said she'd have to find a new Dr & daughter said "fine". She went off the drug & Lupus was gone in next tests... Dr tried to say it NEVER was but daughter said "you want to see the screen shot of the tests?" She always kept track of all details. Dr backed off.
This new med is supposed to not be anything like the other but there is one side effect possibility that scares me... "it can cause a brain reaction that is irreversable". Only reason she is considering taking is "if it works it could help her sons & daughters". Because with the first surgery they removed a piece of the large and piece of the small intestine & the valve that connects them, she has one med she must take the rest of her life. One doctor explained she could just wait until the need to remove the next "hot spot" but will have the danger of how much can they remove in her life time & still be okay? Hard choice & I do not advise. She has been treated & examined at MAYO & other states where they lived, her insurance offers the best possible. Tell Bridget this never kept her from traveling the world for her job, she was just prepared to deal with hand she was dealt. She was born in Jan of '56 so has a lifetime of dealing already. 3 of her 4 kids are engineers & the 4th an "IT" person, she retired 2-3 years ago & keeps busy flying all over the US to visit her 5 grands (& kids).
Gloria, my daughter is in town for some activities of her grands so had daytime to spare & helped me go thru those kitchen cabinets. I eagerly pushed her to take anything that had a happy memory "except the 2 cast iron Dutch ovens" that I bake the eye of round roasts in to grind for meat spread. She gets those when I'm done cooking! This other pile is waiting for the last kid to have a look but all were told that "everything donates" that they don't take! I decided they can do their deciding now easier than when planning a funeral.
Waiting for 3 phone calls to be returned from people supposed to do jobs for me. Now days it seems anyone hired to do a job acts like they are doing you a favor instead of getting paid for doing a job!
Amy, the one thing my daughter discovered over the years is that "if something doesn't sound good" in her head it won't set well with the tummy, so she doesn't eat. Times she can get away with food I would not dare touch & she'll have no reaction. I'm convinced each person's body has to deal with what it tolerates & no 2 people alike when dealing with Crohn's.
Got to get out & vac the pool before it gets too hot. Nice cool morning but kept waiting on those phone calls & now I've shot the cool part of the day!
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Medical Corner / Re: Bosom Buddies
Last post by SharonE - Today at 11:55:11 AMHi all. I have all bills debited from our account but have not gone paper-free because I want things in files for Brian. Also John is not very good at computers, so I have to make it easy for him in case I go first.
Mary Page, we are to be cremated and scattered also, either in the CO mtns or our University gardens.
Jane, we fly to Atlanta and then straight to Paris where we will be 3 days and then the TGV (train) to Lyon to board our cruise ship. On Oct 4 we fly from Lyon to Amsterdam to JFK to Charlotte. We booked Delta comfort seats which recline a lot and are more comfortable than Economy but not as expensive as First Class. We did that when we flew to Seoul and it made a huge difference.
We got the booster yesterday & my arm is sore, but otherwise ok. Also got the mani & pedi and started serious packing. I just finished packing my makeup and jewelry and organizing my purse. Undies are in the wash & I am resting before I start in again. John has taken Bunny to the kennel.
Thank you all for all the good wishes. I hope it will be all we hope it to be. I won't post except maybe on FB while I'm gone. So Au revoir for a while. Sharon
Mary Page, we are to be cremated and scattered also, either in the CO mtns or our University gardens.
Jane, we fly to Atlanta and then straight to Paris where we will be 3 days and then the TGV (train) to Lyon to board our cruise ship. On Oct 4 we fly from Lyon to Amsterdam to JFK to Charlotte. We booked Delta comfort seats which recline a lot and are more comfortable than Economy but not as expensive as First Class. We did that when we flew to Seoul and it made a huge difference.
We got the booster yesterday & my arm is sore, but otherwise ok. Also got the mani & pedi and started serious packing. I just finished packing my makeup and jewelry and organizing my purse. Undies are in the wash & I am resting before I start in again. John has taken Bunny to the kennel.
Thank you all for all the good wishes. I hope it will be all we hope it to be. I won't post except maybe on FB while I'm gone. So Au revoir for a while. Sharon