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Started by dapphne, March 30, 2016, 09:23:16 AM

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Lately I've been seeing a bunch of videos featuring Munchkin cats. They are actually being bred now to accentuate a genetic mutation in cats. Breeders have been struggling to get these cats officially recognized as a breed because of health issues.


It's the same problem with the flat-faced canines. There are so many breathing, heart problems, and other issues with these breeds. The human desire to have an animal a certain way has messed up many breeds. An example is the old Lassie television show where everyone wanted a collie to look like the show's star. To get that high domed look, they had to reduce the brain area, and thus the golden collies (not the border collies); are not as smart or healthy anymore.


I remember how popular collies used to be, Patricia, but I didn't know about the breeding for a high domed head.


October 10, 2020, 01:09:02 PM #18663 Last Edit: October 10, 2020, 01:13:10 PM by Marilyne
I agree with what everyone has to say about the flat face cats and dogs, that have been genetically modified to look that way.  Why the breeders want to mess with and change a perfectly good purebred pet, I don't understand?   

I feel the same way about Labra-doodles. I know they are the big rage now, and everybody wants one.  They are  referred to here as "Designer Dogs".   They are very sweet and cute looking, but plain Lab's are just as sweet, loving, and extremely smart!  That's why the original Labs  are now the preferred Seeing Eye dog, as well as companion dog for all people with all sorts of disabilities  I don't know much about the Standard Poodle, but have heard they are also sweet, smart and good natured.  Why breed the two together?  Especially because now there are lots of health problems with the Doodles. Some serious and painful infections dealing with the curls growing into areas like the anus.  I hope they will be rejected by the AKC, but looks like they will soon be accepted as a potential show dog.

Lots of health and personality problems with the new Cocker Spaniel.  When I was growing up in the l940's, they were extremely popular.  We had a couple over the years, and most of our friends had them too.  Now they are unrecognizable as the same original breed.  They have been bred to be much smaller in overall size, with a shorter snout/nose, and longer fur.  There aren't many of these new style Cockers out there now as family dogs.  They have been bred mostly for show dogs. 

I don't know anything about the cats with the flat faces and smaller ears?  How they were bred, or why?  I've seen lots of pictures, but don't know anybody with one?


October 10, 2020, 02:28:37 PM #18664 Last Edit: October 12, 2020, 12:27:14 PM by Amy
Patricia, I have had Scotch Collies in the past and not much space for brain but a lovable dog. People didn't want her.....grew tired of taking her to the cottage and I was lucky enough to get her.

Dalmatians are another breed that took off when 100 Dalmatians came out. Too many back yard breeds spoiled this one. Kyle and I went to the pound to look at a collie and I saw this Dally in a pen he could hardly turn around in. Took him out to see how he was and he never went back in...When I went back to let them know how happy we were with Buddy, the lady said you are still talking with us after I told her it was a Dalmatian we adopted.

It is not the dog that is at fault.....mainly owners. A lot of people shouldn't even own a flea.
I can't change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination.
Jimmy Dean
If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. -Will Rogers


Another major factor is the craving for what's called "purse dogs." They're breeding for smaller and smaller sizes, and that causes more medical issues. My younger sister bred and showed dalmations for years, and she got really fed up and got out of the business after the movie, 101 Dalmations, over this type of insanity.

MarsGal, I tried to find my reference to why the breeding for the higher domed forehead popularized by the Lassie show made the dog dumber by making the brain area smaller. But I was unable to find it and thus can't substantiate that.

Amy, I agree!


October 12, 2020, 01:20:11 AM #18666 Last Edit: October 12, 2020, 01:30:26 AM by Denver
I am a bit late to talk about my first airplane ride, but here is the story anyway. It was October of 1967,  I was 19, newly married and flew from Philadelphia to Denver when Bob was headed to Germany.  A couple of months later I flew from Denver to McQuire AFB /Ft.Dix New Jersey to join him in Germany.  The longest airplane ride I did was from LAX to Hong Kong. We were very lucky to be flying first class in a 747, seated in the very front of the plane.  There was no engine noise of any kind, and when I thought about being over water for such a LONG time it seemed very serial to me, but what a thrill. 

JACKIE, it is interesting to read that British Airways has retired their 747's from their fleet.  The Concorde was indeed a beautiful sight to see in the air.  I had to smile at you saying you and Richard were at Kew Garden when you took pictures of the Concorde.....such a beautiful garden. 

JEAN, I can relate to some wonderful memories as well of someone stepping up to help and I, too, will never forget their kindness. 

Love the topics in this folder.......

"Love many, trust few; learn to paddle your own canoe"


Good Morning everyone.  :)  Another brand new week starting today!  They sure do come and go quickly, it seems. 

Jean - I hope we hear from you today, that you and Larry are both doing okay?  Also hoping your son and wife are now safely back home again, after this long, sad time for your family.

Jenny - Good to see a message from you this morning.  I've been thinking about you, and always concerned about how Michele is doing?  I know she's on the chemo-maintenance, and I hope that it isn't causing her as much discomfort as before? 
I meant to comment on our name discussion from  a while back, and how your Dad and your husband are both "Bob".  The name Bob, ruled for many decades, but now I think it has finally faded, and has been taken over by Michael, as well as many other new and unusual names.  Back when I was growing up, seemed like every family had a large number of Roberts  . . . all nicknamed Bob and Bobby.  I had an Uncle Bob and cousins named Bob, as well as school friends.  There was a Bobby in every neighborhood and every classroom, and every family.  Times have changed, and names have changed as well.   Someday,  Robert/Bob will be a favorite again,  but I'm afraid we won't be around to welcome its return.   :(

It's 9:00 already, so guess I had better get the kitchen cleaned up, and then I have some things planned for today.  I'm going to drive to the only shoe store left,  that I know of,  within driving distance, and see if I can find something sturdy and comfortable for the cold weather ahead.  I have nothing but sandals, and some old SAS shoes that no longer fit, and cause some painful foot problems.  I've ordered at least ten pairs of shoes from Zappos, the past couple of months, but none were comfortable, and I've had to send them all back. Fortunately, Zappos gives free shipping, both ways!


Good morning Marilyne from a 24° and clear Interior. I'm also going to be returning some ankle boots I purchased last week. I think my feet have spread with all this bare feet living.


Marilyne, our grandson's funeral isn't until Thursday the 15th.  It seems that the pandemic has slowed getting proper documents, etc., along with everything else. They can have 54 people at the service but unlimited number at the grave sight.  My son and his wife won't fly home until several days after the funeral.  I wish we could go, but our traveling days are over.  We have just a small airport and there would be too many plane changes for me.

Our weather has been so nice this fall.  I feel so sorry for the people in Louisiana who have gone through two already.  Hurricane season isn't over until Nov. 30th.


Jean - It sounds like your grandson will have a nice service on Thursday.  I'm glad that they are allowing so many to attend. Some counties in California are not letting families have any kind of funeral gathering as yet.  That's the way it is here in Northern Cal, so people are waiting to have a memorial service at a later time.   I know you wish you could be there, but I understand how difficult it would be for you and Larry to travel that far.   

Patricia - I did surprisingly well at the local shoe store!  I bought not one, but two pairs of shoes!  One is a cold weather pair of oxfords, and the other is a sale price leftover from Summer.   I hope you exchange your  boots okay?   I like the short ankle boots in tan suede,  that used to be called "desert boots", in years gone by.   They are still very popular, and sell out early here, for both women and men.  I tried to order a pair from LLBean, but they were sold out in my size.

I hope we hear from more of our regular B&T posters today?


Patricia, my feet have also spread but I blamed it on the work boots I wore. Plus I did go bare foot a lot in the summers past.

Marilyn, I had forgot about Desert boots!! They were always so comfortable on the feet.

Jean, prayers for you and your family in this difficult time.

I can't change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination.
Jimmy Dean
If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. -Will Rogers


October 13, 2020, 02:13:08 PM #18672 Last Edit: October 13, 2020, 02:30:30 PM by patricia19
Good morning from a dark, cool Interior at 26° heading for a high of 35° today. Yesterday I got my shopping done while feeling somewhat out of sorts. I returned the shoes and purchased some odds and ends and back home only to go back to bed and sleep. Today, I feel so much better.  Now, if I could only get a haircut as the last one was early March and I have baby fine, flyaway hair.

Amy, my feet have always been wide but coupled with a very high arch. If you were to look at my footprints in the sand, there would only be two unconnected ball prints. It wasn't until they started making different widths available that I didn't have to custom buy.

Marilyne, the pair I had to return was a heeled bootie in green suede with black edging. Even the returns clerk was oohing and awwing as she finished the return. :'(  I have a very high arch and couldn't get my foot in—an issue with mailed orders. Plus, I'm running around barefoot and only slippers otherwise in this lockdown.

I had another thought back to our discussion about manipulated feline and canine breeds. Savannah cats are selling for five thousand and up   and similarly priced Chausies.    These are more examples of wanting something others don't have! Both of these breeds are illegal in many areas.

Jean, it is always so hard to lose someone younger and doubly hard not to be there. I am so sorry for you and your family. And hope you find a peace that he no longers suffers. It is the same here as recently, our virus case counts have exploded, and everything is shut down, and no way to pay any respects in the hospital or later.


October 13, 2020, 05:44:57 PM #18673 Last Edit: October 14, 2020, 12:19:45 AM by Vanilla-Jackie
Getting a few things done this week, a charity collection due to take the last of my donated and cluttered stuff preventing me from manoeuvring safely around my bedroom, is new armchairs ( to replace the three foot sofa that wouldn't fit in that a charity came to collect ) are being delivered at the end of the week, i am looking forwards to them coming, been a two month order one armchair will be going to a recently moved into our apartments lady, i have not met her nor seen her but told by our homes manageress she has dementia and only recently moved in and has no furniture, she has nothing, so i said if by the date my armchairs arrive, if she still doesn't have anything she is welcome to mine, if it does a good turn for her, so down to her floor it will go, at least it will save me calling in another charity furniture collection, it wont be travelling too far, and manageress on asking if there will be any strong males available, said there will be someone available to get it down to her, she will see to that...Oh and dont mention my recent three Amazon deliveries, one went back because they delivered it the day before just when i nipped downstairs and outside to empty my rubbish, another today pressed my intercom, i let him in, stood there waiting on him bringing it up, no sign of him, so went downstairs in the lift, and there it was in the foyer, no one about, nor no on-site manageress, she is only here for a couple of hours, it was left there for anyone to help themselves to, like another heavy parcel a week or so ago, only that was left outside, i had no clue it had been delivered until a knock at my door, a visiting elderly man delivering medications from a chemist to another onsite resident spotted it, and kindly brought it up to me, otherwise it would have sat outside the main entrance doors for any visitors to help themselves to... Anyway this is a tying up pieces week, and things are looking good....Even my Indian lady friend keeps popping up almost daily with items of foodstuff, bits of her home cooked hot spicy curries, dont know why she feels she needs to feed me, i keep telling her i have put on a few unwelcome pounds that i want to lose but it still keeps on coming...

" look after our planet, it is the only one we have "   


Jackie, I think there is a place to give delivery instructions when you order something from Amazon. Not all delivery people go the extra mile to take a package to an apartment door and some apartment buildings do not allow for anyone past the foyer without escort or permission, like at Patricia's building.

Package stealing has become a big problem here. Amazon and maybe others now take pictures with their cellphones when they deliver to prove they did in fact deliver the package. Even so, Amazon is good about replacing stolen packages. I've heard of thieves following trucks to steal what is left on porches. George, whose porch is right at the public sidewalk, had several packages stolen recently. He even got to the door just in time to see the thief take off with one of them. He reported it to the police who have their eyes on several suspects, one of whom has been arrested so far. They took a description of the package contents in case they ever find the stolen items, but were doubtful it would be recovered. George now has his packages delivered to a package drop-box at a local pharmacy. My sister and her husband also use a drop-box store for their packages. I don't, but then I generally make sure I am home and keep an eye out for the delivery so I can grab it off my porch right away. Most of my packages come from Amazon, so I can track a package's progress to delivery with my tablet and either consult it or look out my window. Still, with George's experience, you can see how quick the thieves are. Our street has not been hit by package burglars yet, but you never know.


Good morning from a chilly, frosted Interior at only 9°.

MarsGal, even before the pandemic, this building was locked. The vestibule with the callbox opens directly into a larger room featuring mail, maintenance, security with managers' main offices, and tenant assistance. All mail and deliveries are left here and a texted message to the tenant for pickup. Before COVID-19, we used to have 24/7 maintenance and security with only the 24/7 security now. There was also a full kitchen, tables and chairs, a small library, puzzles, books, a printer, and computers. Those features, as well as the stocked common rooms on each floor, are presently locked.


MarsGal - Same thing happening here, all over town.  The "Porch Pirates", are busy stealing packages in broad daylight.  Used to be only around Christmas time, but now it's a year round problem.  Many homeowners get a good picture of them on their outdoor security cameras, and sometimes the thief even waves at the camera!    Even if they are caught by the police, they only get a warning and let go.  Nobody is held or charged anymore for stealing or shoplifting - just  a "slap on the wrist"  style of justice.    That's the new California. 

Patricia - Looks like a ballot problem ahead!  This morning, on my Next Door, was a message from a woman who had received a second ballot in the mail.  She had already voted and taken her ballot to the Post office.  Minutes later, messages started pouring into Next Door, from people all over town, that they also had received a second ballot.  Apparently it isn't an issue connected to either party, but seems to be random, and is a screw-up originating at the Registrar of Voters or some such Government entity.  I don't know if this is just our relatively small town  (population 35,000) , or if it's also happening in neighboring San Jose, with population of over a million.   We haven't received our mail delivery yet today, so don't know if we will also get another ballot? 


As an independent, I have received mail-in ballots from Independents, Democrats. Progressives,  and Republicans. I tend to look at them as adverts. However, I chose only one and have already mailed that one in.


Good Morning Everyone,
from the chilly but clear,
rocky coast of Maine.   

It is only a few more weeks until our
Thanksgiving here in the USA.   

Unfortunately,  we will not be getting
together this year.   The first time
in my lifetime that our family has not
had the opportunity to spend TG with each

Another Covid disaster..   So sad. 
But we are fortunate to still be Covid
Free... So I shouldn't complain... but
feel that I must. 

Wishing everyone a great week..
The heat has gone from the rocky coast
of Maine...   Hooray!!

Sandy (in a good mood!)

Sing like no one's listening.
Love like you've never been hurt,
Dance like nobody's watching, and
Live like it's heaven on earth.



Good morning from a nippy 39° this morning in the Interior! We had a snow dusting yesterday, but it melted over a warmer night and this morning. I don't know what the day will bring, but I know it will have to do with soap and scrub. I now have my new sheets, pillows, comforter, towels, but didn't think about the old ones. No donations are open; I don't really want to store them or trash them, so that will take some conjuring.


October 15, 2020, 09:28:10 PM #18680 Last Edit: October 15, 2020, 09:34:09 PM by Beverly
Jean - I'm sure your thoughts were with your family today. Everyone understands why you couldn't be at the funeral. My traveling days are over also. I had really hoped to get home again but I don't think it will happen.

Jackie - I'm sorry you've had so many problems with deliveries. It would be helpful if they had an office where packages could be left. The things we order from Amazon are delivered by UPS, FedX and also to our post office box. They ring the doorbell when they leave the package but of course that only works if you are home! I knew a few UPS drivers when we lived up north. They had a tight schedule and usually delivered packages on a dead run, no time for small talk. Fortunately, there isn't much risk of having things stolen in our neighborhood.

Jenny - I've been wanting to comment on the name Robert/Bob. On my father's side my great-uncle was Robert (called Robin by close family), then his son was Robert, his daughter married a Robert and they had a son named Robert. On my mother's side, she had a brother, Robert. He didn't have any sons so named his daughter Roberta. To top it off, my brother is Robert (Bob) and he named his son Robert!  Except for my brother and nephew, we called them all Robert most of the time, not Bob!

Marilyne - I have problems with sandals and shoes without good arch supports so I've resorted to wearing New Balance athletic shoes nearly all the time. If I'm going out I have some Naturalizer sandals that are fairly comfortable. I'm glad you were able to find some shoes for fall. If our feet aren't happy, we aren't happy!  :)

Donna will be back in Florida by Sunday. Chape spent an afternoon at her house waiting for the delivery of her new kitchen range. All the appliances were about 25 years old and the refrigerator "died" so they've replaced them all.



October 16, 2020, 01:00:28 AM #18681 Last Edit: October 16, 2020, 01:09:13 AM by Denver
Watched the debates and then it was news time, so thought I had best come in and say HELLO before ai head off to bed.

BEVERLY, I do believe you have more Roberts in your family than we did.  We also had a Roberta.  They have showed your area on TV the last couple of days on the news after the visit from the vice-president.  Happy to read Donna will be returning late this week. 

JACKIE, it appears you have just as many problems with deliveries there as we have here.  Thank goodness both of yours turned out fine, but they might not have.  How nice that you have decoded to give your chair to the neighbor in need after yours is delivered.  That is very nice of you.  If we all would be more helpful to others we would not have so much hatefulness in our world.

JEAN, I thought about you a lot today knowing it is the day of burial for Jason.  I am so sorry you and Larry were not able to be with the family, but they knew you were there in spirit.  Hugs for you.

MARILYNE, I am saddened to read your info about multiple ballots being delivered.....sadly, I think this is a big issue all over, just like the multiple stimulus checks and credit cards.  I would like to think we are capable  of being more up to date on important thinks like this. 

We will have a freeze tonight so many have brought their plants in to try to save them.  We did not as our planters are much too big to move around.  The yard men blew out our sprinkler systems today.....winter is coming much sooner than I want it to😩😢

Pleasant dreams to all.

"Love many, trust few; learn to paddle your own canoe"


I've been throwing all those solicitations for a mail in ballot out. My polling place is only a few blocks away and rarely has more than a few people there when I go in with the exception of the primaries this year. I think that change is because so many people have been off work because of the COVID-19 restrictions. Still, I didn't have to wait more than a minute or two to vote.

USCG Hollyhock is still docked at Mayport FL (Jacksonville) listed as under repair. What a shame that they get the whole way down there and don't get a chance to help out with the aftermath of the hurricanes. Well, the ship doesn't anyway. I wonder if, since it is being repaired, the crew have been temporarily reassigned elsewhere.

My sister and I are doing lunch at Hoss's this afternoon. I got a coupon for a free entre to use, otherwise we would have gone to Olive Garden.

Even though I raked the front yard yesterday, it already looks like I have to go over it again. I'll have to go get the recycle bin before it blows away as it got quite breezy again this morning after I set it out. It looks like some areas of Central PA will be seeing frost tonight. 


Ladies, hold your applause till the end of this story!  (LOL) This morning I decided I was not going to throw away my two remaining, overripe bananas.  So I pulled out my banana bread recipe (my daughter's actually) and started gathering the various bowls and cups to hold the ingredients.  Got everything measured out, and ready to begin.  My electric mixer is way, way up in the top cabinet, which I can't reach (5'0") and daughter has forbidden my using my stepstool to reach things.  So, I begin creaming butter and sugar, by hand, then adding eggs, vanilla, flour & buttermilk alternately, and stirring like crazy, also by hand.  My arm and shoulder may fall off before the rest of day is done, but I will, by golly, have nice hot banana bread in awhile.  I hate to sound so proud of myself for doing all this mixing by hand, but I kept thinking of my mom, and her mom, going back eons, and all they had to do this mixing with was a good strong arm, and a loving heart to make this or other cakes and breads.  I am now standing at the computer, and if you are so inclined, put your hands together while I take a small bow.  (I may never do this again :-\ but it was ?fun? while it lasted!) LOL.  I'll let you know how it tastes later.



Thanks, Callie.  I needed that!  Got a few minutes before the bread is done, and I'm fading fast.  Will need my nap as soon as "the project" comes out of the oven!


October 16, 2020, 03:48:37 PM #18686 Last Edit: October 16, 2020, 03:50:33 PM by patricia19
Good late morning from a chilly but now snowless Interior! It was plus one at 8 AM, and now at 11:19, it's an entire plus 2°. We're supposed to get another round of snow on Monday and Tuesday of next week.

I don't believe we've ever had an Indian summer. Before 2017, it would be a hot summer, rainy August, and cooler but beautiful September. Then have the first snow on or about Halloween. Now all bets are off. This past summer smashed all known records with the continuous rainfall and cool temperatures. Combined with a burgeoning virus, we just wanted it over.

Tome, you have my respect. I cannot lift a full coffeepot anymore without my hands shaking! True story. I was at the doctor during an exam when he asked me to take his hand and squeeze. He repeated, asking me to squeeze, and I retorted, "I am!"

I'm not sure how many if any, Roberts we had on both sides of the family. There were numerous Shawns, Patricks, Eds, Michaels or Mick, Forest, Thomas, Liam, and Ruben. The women generally had older names and those from previous centuries, such as Elizabeth or Ophelia, Mollie or Margaret, Patrica, Helens, and Mary Joseph. There were a few Evelyns, Lillian Rose and Catherine too.

I did get about half of the soapy scrubbing I meant to do the past two days. This afternoon, it's mopping floors and cleaning the bathroom, and hopefully, tomorrow will be some loads of laundry. I have yet to bake that loaf or roast.👩‍🍳


October 19, 2020, 01:44:42 AM #18688 Last Edit: October 19, 2020, 02:03:50 AM by Vanilla-Jackie
...well-done, if our parents could do it, so can we...yes not many electrical mod cons around in there days...


Got my pair of brand new armchairs delivered 2 days ago ( after a 2 month from ordering wait, and already paid for, ) delivery men were about to give up and take them back when they wouldn't fit through my apartments front door leaving me with nothing to sit on...another very stressful and tearful moment...

" look after our planet, it is the only one we have "   


Good evening.

Sunday sure went fast....MY Broncos played at 11 AM.  We have been keeping Lola Dog all week while her family was away on Fall Break.  They returned home this evening so we took her home.  Came home to our refrigerator beeping.....inside temp had dropped to 59 degrees.  We put all we could into a couple of coolers and took a shelf full over to our neighbors refrigerator and of course threw a LOT out as it is trash night. Trying to figure out who to call for repair.  😩

The smoke continues to be frightful as many fires continue to burn just to the north of Denver. So many homes have sad😩

TOMREADER, I have to say that I am proud of you taking on the job of mixing by hand the banana bread.  You should be proud of yourself and thankful too that you did not give in and try to climb up to get the mixer.  Good job and happy it turned out well for you. 

I am off to bed.  Pleasant dreams to all.

"Love many, trust few; learn to paddle your own canoe"