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Started by Pat, March 29, 2016, 01:17:18 PM

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Wow, alpiner! That is scary. Glad you knew what to do, and are all right now.
"When someone you love dies, you never quite get over it.  You just learn how to go on without them. But always keep them safely tucked in your heart."


Oh. I understand so well how that feels.  I have C.O.P.D., and just bending over to get something out of the bottom of the fridge or making my bed or picking up something I drop can send the air gushing out of me completely, and the feeling of panic until I can breathe again is ghastly.  I feel for you, Alpiner.  I have not had to use the Heimlich maneuver, but one of the scariest things is when, say I am talking to one of my children on the telephone, and suddenly the air seems to swoop out of my lungs and I am left breathless.  Literally.  I breathe in from two different little plastic boxes filled with prescription medication for the lungs on a daily basis.  And hope.  So I commiserate with you, and wish you well with that.

By the way, side anecdote: my husband saved my life with the Heimlich back in December of 2003.  At dinner, a piece of tenderloin steak got caught in my windpipe.  It did not hurt at all, but I could neither breathe nor speak.  The blessed man caught on instantly, however. and got up out of his chair, telling me to get up as well, and did the Heimlich in an instant.  That piece of meat sailed in an arc clear out to the kitchen.  He was a dear, dear dependable human being!


MaryPage  I have asthma & COPD .  I use an inhaler as needed & another one I use twice a day .


September 10, 2021, 11:26:43 AM #10593 Last Edit: September 10, 2021, 11:28:28 AM by jane
Good Morning...WOW...scary news here today...Patricia with her state at max again with Covid...just like my state...and maybe all our states!  ALL because people won't get a simple shot in the arm.  And now the little ones are getting it and that makes me beyond angry.  I swear they all have some sort of brain rot or "mad cow disease"...or raging stupidity.  AND they're taking up beds needed by people who haven't endangered everyone with their choices.  OK>..calming down now, and stepping off my soapbox.

Alpiner and Mary Page...with COPD issues that sound beyond scary.  Glad you both have inhalers and procedures to get that breath back.

Beautiful morning here, and I did walk to town, so that's over.  I still have a funeral home visitation to do this afternoon...not looking forward to that. 

Take care and stay healthy,



The thing my mind just cannot take in, Jane, is the History of pandemics here in these United States and the fact that earlier pandemics are almost unknown after the generations of Americans who actually lived them; leaving only the History readers and scholars to know the facts.

We have, without question, defeated Smallpox through EVERYONE getting vaccinated. The same with the dread polio, but when my generation is entirely gone, and it is almost there, WHO will know the history?  Who will know how many children across and up and down these states were in iron lungs to keep them breathing?  How many had paralysis or stunted, shrunken arms or legs or both?  How very afraid our parents were to let us go to movies or swimming pools?  When the two very different immunizations came finally, we all lined up GLADLY with our children to get the whole family immunized.  We can jump back to George Washington telling the doctors to immunize his entire Revolutionary Army against the smallpox.  It was needling in the live pox back then!  Viruses were discovered and seen for the first time by extra-magnifying microscopes (electronic ones) IN MY LIFETIME!  The researchers learned by error and success at first, but now they know what they are doing and what the viruses are doing, and they can get a fix to us years and years earlier than they could manage in those earlier years.  We are SO lucky now, and it is only vicious propaganda meant to cause our countrymen to be hatefully divided and to die when they need not that is keeping this pandemic in full steam mode.  Yes, we keep asking ourselves, WHY?


There is an old saw, "money is the root of all evil." And I think we can add that to the forefront and add power,  they're intertwined.


Mary Page ( duplicated in Norms B & T ) a few months back i got a large quarter length piece of strawberry stuck in my throat, just a tiny piece of air- hole, it seemed to go on for a long time, fighting through a tiny airway gap, i could feel my eyes getting larger and i really did think this it it, i am going to die...The piece of strawberry eventually started to slowly go down my throat but as it was doing so, it was still blocking, and i could feel my chest tightening, i honestly believe i was near to death that  day...

" look after our planet, it is the only one we have "   


I also have COPD. I got my heart monitor today it is a a disk stuck to my upper chest that has a button for me to put if and when I get any symptoms. I wear it for two weeks then mail it back to them/


September 11, 2021, 12:33:37 PM #10598 Last Edit: September 11, 2021, 02:54:45 PM by alpiner1
If it wasn't for the 1918 flu epidemic I wouldn't be here . My Dad's first wife died in the epidemic , leaving my 3 year old  1/2   sister & 3 month old 1/2 brother . Our dad later married my Mom . I knew my 1/2 sister  existed & contacted her when I was an adult . She told me many things about her life & how she missed our dad .  He left her with her grandmother & her brother was adopted . The brother had medical issues & dad couldn't afford to provide the help he needed . I later met him too .  I'm the youngest of Dad's second family .


Afternoon, Buddies. 

I've been doing a lot of computer work this morning, taking a lunch break now and watching the Oregon-Ohio State game.  Nope, didn't walk this morning.  I am doing laundry, though...so that's the "work" for today.

My sister and BIL is at the Ohio State game, and I texted her and told her to wave to me.
 She replied they were in their seats and would wave.  Only something like 100,000 people there, so I'm sure I'll see her.   ;D  ;D  ;D

Yesterday, I went up early to the funeral home for the visitation of our friend, John.  I hadn't been there since Ray was there two years ago.  It was very hard.  Tom, a friend of Ray's who works with his wife as greeters, etc. was there and hug me and we talked about Ray.
 I was the first of the "visitors" to talk to John's wife, Kay, and then I left.  I'm not big on standing around and "visiting" at such things.  I couldn't face the funeral today...it'll be a long one, so I'm here at home.

Stay safe and healthy, especially all of our Buddies with COPD,



Hi everyone...just got back from my daughters...stayed 5 days...enjoyed it but good to be home...I haven't tried sending a comment..so hope this works...the mornings are getting some cooler...but warms up in afternoon....got to get back to walking next week...hope all are doing well and not getting exposed to the dreadful virus...lot of people sick here....take care


Darlene....good to see you posting! 
Glad you had good visit at your daughter's. 



Sunday Morning Greetings!  It's a very quiet morning here.  I walked a bit earlier when it was nice and cool.  I'm tired today and the body feels the up and downs we're having with the temperatures. 

I've got some paperwork to get through, and that's not one of my favorite things.

My pill box is filled for the next two weeks.  I hate that it's so hard to tell the difference between a couple of small white pills.  I have to read the tiny letters/numbers on them to know the difference.  I don't know why they all have to be round.  If they can't use color because of people's sensitivities, then why can't they make the shapes different...triangles or squares or other shapes. OK...my pet peeve for the day.

Stay safe and healthy,



Jane, I use a small magnifying glass for those types of pills.


Jane, ditto what Patricia said.  I have a wonderful ophthalmologist, yet I have had to buy a wondeerful set of magnifying glasses from Amazon and put one at the kitchen table, one here at my computer, and one by my favorite easy chair.  Round white pills in tablet form ARE a problem.

In my morning paper, and possibly in yours, as well and all, as it is syndicated from The New York Times, there is a splendid article about hearing aids.  It pretty much touches on every argument pro & con about them.  Also, it comes down on the side of Costgo as the place to buy them right now.  And points out that we may be able to buy them even cheaper than that over the counter, soon!


Wow, on the choking thing. How lucky that the Heimlich maneuver works. I don't have breathing problems thank goodness. I have enough else though.

I'm in total agreement with everyone over the Covid vaccinations. I think it should be mandatory unless there is a medical reason preventing it. I also think they need to rush the vaccine for children 6-12. If parents don't get their teens vaccinated, they should be arrested for abuse! It shouldn't have to be mandatory. People ought to be smart enough to want to get it.  Okay, I've vented enough.

It's been cooler here, but is warming up for 3 or 4 days to the 90's again.  We just got back from our long Sunday walk which was about 3/4 of a mile which added to a short walk at noon and around the house will put me over a mile. I'm trying to get as near that as possible everyday. Sometimes, part of it is on the bicycle at the gym.

I'm fixing a cold tuna pasta salad for dinner. It is about half done with the things that need chilling early. I'll finish it up in a while. I also have clothes to fold and medicine to box for the week. I agree about all the white tiny pills, mostly round. However, I leave them in the bottles till I put them in the daily boxes, so I don't need to read them. For our trip, I'm having the pharmacist put all my meds in bubbles by time and day and week. That way, it will all be safe.

Mary, I've been putting our suppers on plates and heating them in the microwave. We get our big meal at night.

Darlene, how nice that you get to visit with your girls so often. I'm envious.

Well, I better get moving. Sharon


Oh Sharon, I could not agree with you more! 

Darlene Ceci, I am So glad for you being able to enjoy the close company of your girls.  I am in deep lockdown again, what with all the reports of folk getting Covid (the new variety) despite complete vaccinations.  There are not many of these, percentage-wise, but if one of those few is I, well, there goes the ball game. I should not be so jealous, though; I talk with my daughters constantly on the phone, and they send pictures and so forth.

It's a lovely, sunny day here on the bay.  We are having a bit of maintenance on our building; they are power washing the outside pursuant to painting and staining and sealing and about a half dozen related things I cannot recall.  A humongous nuisance, but this, too, shall pass.


MaryPage...I'm in a self-imposed "shut down" too.  I'm autoimmune compromised because of the PMR that I'm still trying to overcome, but I don't qualify for the early booster.  You have to be on 20+mg of Prednisone, said Dr. Singh.  So, I'll wait for my turn and try to stay safe in the meantime. 

Sharon...I saw France has banned only unvaccinated Americans, so you and John should be ok for your trip. 

Patricia...I have a magnifying glass, too...but we shouldn't have to do that, imho.   :coolsmiley:

I've been working online all morning, finishing my project.  I went out to get my groceries between 10 and 11 to discover I'd goofed.  I apparently didn't click the final button, so no order.  I came home, found the order, and clicked the button and chose 2-3 o'clock today, so that'll work fine.

It's a nice cool day here, but we had storms which woke me up overnight...lots of thunder and lightning, but I don't think much rain.

Stay safe and healthy,



Oh Jane!  My sympathy.  I know all about that business with trying to come down off of Prednisone.  My "twin First Cousin," who died in  1994, worked on that for years.  She had Polymyalgia Rhematica, and I am not at all certain I have spelled that correctly. Anyway, she was on Prednisone and was not successful in coming down.  I do hope you will be.  I also have a granddaughter who is coming down.  She feels so ill for the first few days when she starts taking a lower dose.  Melissa had huge heart surgery at the Mayo clinic in Arizona, and had to go on the Prednisone.  She works really hard, and I think she will be successful.  But my heart does go out to you.  It IS an ordeal.


Jane, they say that others in our age group can get the booster shot as of the 20th. Brookdale has a clinic scheduled for us the 22nd. So we will get it in under the wire for our trip. Yes, I knew France was letting in all those from the US who could prove vaccinations. Hope you can get it soon after the 20th.

We went to the dermatologist this AM for John's annual and for me for itchy spots on my back. I have about scratched myself raw.

When we got back and fed Bunny, I took her for a long walk and then came home to leftover pasta salad. So good. Flu shot tomorrow + bridge and bicycle.

Jane, I forgot to mention last time your sad funeral visit. It must have been very hard.

Alpiner, it must have been nice to find your half siblings. Always nice to have more family.

Hi Mary, Darlene, and Mary Page. Stay safe.  Sharon


MaryPage...that's what I'm dealing with for the second time...Polymyalgia Rheumatica  and prednisone is the ONLY medication...necessary so it doesn't become Giant Cell Arteritis...a very nasty inflammation that can cause blindness and other bad things.

Sharon...good news on the booster for you before you go to France.



Good Morning, Buddies!  We've had a turn to cool weather, but, alas, the heat is to return by the weekend.  It was a pleasant walk this morning, but I only made a 1/2 mile. 

Now I'm home to have a cup of tea and let the joints settle down before breakfast.

The two hospitals in Cedar Rapids...the second largest city in the state...{Des Moines, the capital is #1}, have stopped "elective" surgeries because they're full of Covid.  I hate that term "elective" ...that includes cancer surgeries, heart surgeries, etc.  Nothing "elective" about those, in my mind...to make room for people who haven't bothered to get vaccinated.  I  even saw that one "looney tunes" lawyer was going to sue a hospital because they wouldn't give someone in there ivermectin for his covid.  Gee...docs who won't prescribe parasite animal medicine in their hospital.  Why didn't they take this "patient" to a Vet Clinic?  AGGGGG! :yikes:

Stay safe and healthy!



Jane, the two major hospitals in my state are so overwhelmed that they have asked the federal government for aid and an extra 500 medical technicians, and still, people say vaccines need to be a personal choice. The Anchorage mayor says he won't require vaccines or weekly covid testing for city workers or businesses.


Patricia...this is like a nightmare.  Our numbers are the same as last winter!  And our Governor won't mandate masks for the school kids.  Maybe when their children start dying people will wake up?



September 14, 2021, 06:11:19 PM #10614 Last Edit: September 14, 2021, 06:13:42 PM by patricia19
Unfortunately I don't believe so. Our present numbers are higher than last year, and some politicians are still bleating about personal choice. And today, I read that some anti-vaxxers are now chugging iodine instead of taking a simple jab...


OMG!  Drinking iodine?!


September 14, 2021, 07:23:26 PM #10616 Last Edit: September 14, 2021, 07:25:17 PM by patricia19


When I was a child, and later when I had small children, iodine and/or mercurochrome were used on knee scraps and such like all the time.  Now you never see them.  Or at least, I never see them!  I expect the things in use now are considered safer and better.


But, MaryPage, you didn't drink it as these people are!?!


Oh Heavens, no!  We used cotton and put these liquids ON the cuts and abrasions.  Most kids in those days had scrapes from falling off roller skates or down onto sidewalks from tricycles or scooters or whatever.  And these would be stained brown from iodine or red from mercurochrome.  We did not have TV.  We did not have video games.  We were Free Range kids, thrown out of doors whenever it was not raining.  Our games were played in large groups: Dodge ball and Mother, May I and Red Rover,Send Billy over!  Hop Scotch.  We jumped rope and played Jacks.  We were supposed to be getting lots of Fresh Air, and actually, we were.  Now the kids have to stay inside except when the grownups can take them out, so they won't be kidnapped.  And the air out there is no longer fresh. No one worried about our being kidnapped!  It just did not happen; at least, not where I lived.  One thing must have driven the families of we little girls nuts, though.  We were not allowed to wear shorts or slacks.  My entire wardrobe was made up of pretty little dresses with long sashes sewn to them on the sides and tied in large bows in the back.  Hems were wide, so they could be let down.  I played so rough, I usually went home with at least one sash pulled loose from its mooring, and/or a back hem gaping open where I'd torn it.  I got to wear shorts when I went to camp or when I went to visit my cousins, but my father felt very strongly that girls were not to copy the clothing of boys, and I was not allowed to wear anything but dresses.