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Title: Gripes
Post by: Jeanne Lee on April 08, 2016, 12:11:18 PM
This will be a place to complain about anything that bothers you.   :D
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Sandy on April 08, 2016, 01:09:11 PM
My biggest gripe is that
the "political season"  has turned into "Years"
and has completely taken over cable news
here in the USA....   

We hardly get any Regular News Cycles... 

If it  isn't Political,  then it is something to do with
Mass Shootings or other Tragedies,  where ever
they are in the World,  or at least in the World that
THEY want us here in the USA,  to know about,  Politically. 

Thank Goodness for Netflix and Amazon Prime ....   
At least I have that to go to to escape the
insanity of todays so called news cycles.

Sandy
:crazy2:

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: wjoan on April 08, 2016, 01:15:05 PM
Thanks Jeanne Lee.  :)
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Jeanne Lee on April 08, 2016, 01:37:42 PM
 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Sandy on April 09, 2016, 03:34:18 PM
Well,  I am full of grips this weekend,
so I am going to get them out of my system,  and
forget-about-it !

My gripe is about the Master's PGA Golf Tournament
this week.   

I have been faithfully putting it on the Golf Channel at
9AM EST so far  for three days.       But unfortunately,
they don't seem to be following the actual golfers
in real time until after 3 PM..   

All they do is talk talk talk and prognosticate about
who could win,  who will win and who might win.   

I could care less about what they have to say,  and would
just love to see all the players actually playing golf,
in less then perfect conditions. 

I just need to stop complaining and start watching. 
I may just turn off the sound and watch...   I think
that I would enjoy it more. 

And perhaps put on the  "Dr Who" series on Amazon  Com
which is much more interesting to listen to .

Sandy
:crazy2:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Sandy on April 09, 2016, 05:46:09 PM
Opps.... 

I forgot to thank Jeanne Lee for
giving us a place to gripe.

I know that I feel much better now that I
have my two off my chest! 

Phew...    (Another burden lifted!)
Thanks again,  Jeanne!

Sandy'
:crazy2:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Jeanne Lee on April 09, 2016, 05:49:04 PM
 :2funny:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on April 09, 2016, 08:30:41 PM
Sandy, you do know the Masters is not on the Golf Channel, don't you?  Sunday it will start at 2 pm on CBS.  I wish they'd start earlier, but they don't.  Today it began at 3 pm and I watched it until 7:30 when it was over. 

Mary Ann    
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on April 09, 2016, 11:45:58 PM
Yesterday my gripe was --------------- everything. A real stinko day :(   >:(

Today I just hate all those "newscasters" that are compelled to sing their reports. What ever happened to Announcers School?

TV - The vast wasteland.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Marilyne on April 10, 2016, 12:29:10 AM
Rick - Explain what you mean by newscasters "singing their reports"?  Usually all the crazy fads start here in California, but that's one I've never heard of?
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on April 10, 2016, 12:38:44 AM
Trouble is that they are not newscasters, broadcasters or reporters. They are people hired to read the news off teleprompters and look congenial while doing so.They also must abide by the slant, bias or spin expected by the channel's owners and majority advertisers.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on April 10, 2016, 12:58:20 AM
Quote from: Marilyne on April 10, 2016, 12:29:10 AM
Rick - Explain what you mean by newscasters "singing their reports"?  Usually all the crazy fads start here in California, but that's one I've never heard of?
They read like they are reading a kids story to a bunch of first graders. They try to sound mysterious, surprised, happy, etc, with voice pitch varying. At times I think they are telling me it is secret because they drop their voice to levels so low you can't understand them.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: phyllis on April 10, 2016, 07:31:08 AM
 >:(    Ditto to all of the above.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Marilyne on April 10, 2016, 10:32:43 AM
Rick, YES, now I know what you mean!  While watching our local ABC news between 5 and 5:30, there is a nightly "teaser" report from David Muir, about what's on the upcoming World News.  He appears every night with a worried face, and a frightening report, that, "A massive spring storm cripples the entire East Coast!" - or, "Your blood pressure medication could be causing Alzheimer's Disease!"  Stay tuned for all the gruesome details!  If you do stay tuned, which we don't, the stories are never as earth shaking as he makes them sound.   
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: phyllis on April 10, 2016, 11:19:20 AM
The only saving grace with the David Muir report is that almost always they will end the show with an upbeat story.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Marilyne on April 10, 2016, 12:18:36 PM
phyllis - I think that all three major networks usually end the nightly news with an upbeat, or what they call a "fluff" story.  We prefer NBC or CBS, but they're all pretty much the same.  You do get so you like the personalities of certain news anchors - and others, not so much.   
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on April 10, 2016, 02:17:13 PM
When I was in University speech classes, they taught us a small trick. If you wanted people to listen, you lowered your voice slightly at the end of a sentence. If you wanted people to engage and question, you raised your voice slightly at the end of a sentence. This is what these news readers are doing but obviously not too well as it isn't supposed to be noticeable or obvious.

One network actually used this for a defense in 2003 when accused of libel. They stated that the people were only reading the news given to them and not reporting it when brought up on FCC charges.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on April 10, 2016, 06:47:16 PM
Or ------------------ Coming up, Great cancer advance ----------------------------right after this.  Then several commercials, ----------------------- then some other stories ------------- Oh, no more time.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on April 10, 2016, 07:58:00 PM
The newscasters on one of our local stations begin stories with "You're not going to believe......" or "Listen to this...", using a shocked tone of voice.
My son and one of them were classmates and I know his mother well.  So I'm pretty sure he is following orders because he never speaks that way in person - and, if he did, he would probably be chastised.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: halkel on April 11, 2016, 09:02:37 AM
I always love the "advertisement" they insert about what is going to be "news" tomorrow or at 10 PM.   

Sandy, Golf channel never has the Masters  the golf playing itself, it is all just interviews.  But thank goodness the Augusta club only allows 5 minutes of commercials every hour.  Otherwise it would all be commercials with a little golf in between.  And we get a full screen view of things.  Some of the shows now days have so much "crap" on the screen you can hardly tell what show is on. The cable news channels has no only scrolls but other junk.

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on April 11, 2016, 11:59:12 AM
Hal, I don't watch many TV channels, mostly "fluff" ones, but I tell myself I'm watching commercials with a little of a program between.  I think commercials are about four minutes long and in between isn't much different.

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Jeanne Lee on April 19, 2016, 04:18:30 PM
How about the women who screech?  Or the ones that talk through the nose?
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on April 19, 2016, 07:15:19 PM
Quote from: Jeanne Lee on April 19, 2016, 04:18:30 PM
How about the women who screech?  Or the ones that talk through the nose?
Major Network Newscasters.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on April 19, 2016, 08:32:19 PM
Young women on TV today talk too fast and they have such screechy voices - very  unpleasant.

One thing that gripes me no end is the amount of prescription medicines advertised and the ever present ad about asbestos sufferers who should file claims.  Those ads have been on TV forever/

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: SCFSue on April 19, 2016, 11:04:51 PM
Or how about those ads for "personal items to enhance one's love life" which run during the evening news shows.  Yuck!
One of my friends hated that when his grandson was about 10.  It brought up questions he didn't want to talk to the boy about.

Sue
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on April 20, 2016, 08:40:11 AM
Sue,I watch the golf channel and those ads are numerous during the tours.  I also hate to see the women's personal ads.  I put the TV on mute and close my eyes a lot.  Of course, I go to sleep and miss parts of the program, too!!!  I guess I'm showing my age.

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on April 20, 2016, 11:33:02 AM
I used to say that this was why I no longer watched television for commercials and the news bias, including no real reporters, only "news readers." There no longer are any reporters or newscasters and anyone who may believe otherwise is naive.

However I can no longer say that. I have been going along blissfully for years using Adaware and then Adaware plus which allows you to never see an advert until now. The NBC computer site has gotten wise and now they and other sites will no longer allow you to watch their content unless you disable any software that prevents ads that interfere with their programing.

The regular computer news is still not too bad although I have to suffer through excited rambles about the Kardasians or "Honey Boo Boo" who is some fat little girl who evidently made her parents millions by some reality show. I had previously thought that the Disney Channel  was in the lead for spoiled idiots? Now who knows?

Since I don't care for frenzied political propaganda nor do I care for over paid bloated reality stars, (My life does not depend on who marries who or sleeps with whomever!); I tend to watch BBC and some other foreign news programs although I do watch USA Today.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: halkel on April 20, 2016, 11:54:52 AM
Angel, check out www.drudgereport.com (http://www.drudgereport.com) it has lots of news reports from all over the world.  But here lately it is edging into the sex world of news.

I tend to read the news analysis columnist.  You know their political leanings but you can "read around" those and get some real facts you wont find elsewhere/otherwise.  Also sometimes you get some real laughs at their point of view.

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on April 20, 2016, 11:58:19 AM
Thanks Hal, perhaps I will try that. I am so tired of "fluff" reporting.

Now do you have any idea on what to do about every seeming site using a handwritten font? I always seem to be squinting and scrunching trying to read the type and usually simply give up.

I just looked at your drudgereport.com. That isn't a news bias. That is a news propaganda site with no objectivity in site!

But thank you anyway.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: halkel on April 20, 2016, 12:01:12 PM
Angel, I haven't run into the "script" on websites.  Could it be that you have your web browser setting that way?  Also have you tried using the "cnrl" "+" function to increase the font size?
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on April 20, 2016, 12:10:17 PM
It amazes me that there is so much about the Kardashians.  They must be of interest to the younger generations.  I don't watch them, but when I'm clicking down the channels, I can't help but come across them. 

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: wjoan on April 20, 2016, 12:17:48 PM
I haven't watched TV in over 12 years and I sure don't miss it.  The speed talking reminds me of a Science Fiction story I read once.  Anyway,  I have the internet.  :)
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on April 20, 2016, 12:24:18 PM
Hal, it isn't the size of the font, it is the "handwritten" font they are currently using that I cannot read. I will see if I can find a sample.

MaryAnn, they are everywhere and the whole family seems to make their money on sleaze. I have never watched them and don't plan on it and yet to my chagrin, I know way too much about them even as I try to avoid them. That is how pervacious they seem to be, I remember working at Sears and seeing the Kardashian line. The fabric was cheap, bias lines in jackets or blazers crooked & the cloth in jeans so flimsy you could see light through it and the bedroom furnishings had threads running and places where the dye had obviously run but all were very high priced coming from the manufacture and not Sears.

Joan, I have not had a television since 1997. It is internet news that seems so enamored on the Kardashians.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on May 15, 2016, 08:21:37 PM
Is everybody happy?      ???     :-X
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on May 15, 2016, 08:22:35 PM
BTW ---   I've received my first 2017 calendar.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on May 15, 2016, 08:24:32 PM
Quote from: RAMMEL on May 15, 2016, 08:22:35 PM
BTW ---   I've received my first 2017 calendar.

You have got to be kidding me! Too bad Ray didn't see that.  :knuppel2:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: wjoan on May 16, 2016, 10:25:01 AM
Rick, bored?   :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on May 16, 2016, 11:46:23 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Chia on May 22, 2016, 11:51:27 AM
If there is anything that gripes me more is to be watching Television (which is a rare thing these days)a  and a program with discussion  is due, when the guest is introduced and the audience stands up and cheers as if that guest had just discovered the cure for Cancer...
I don't mind the courtesy of a bit of applause, but for some programs....it is just too much as far as I'm concerned. I suppose if the guest were one of my children...but...then again I doubt it....
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on May 22, 2016, 12:38:23 PM
Two things that gripe me a lot are similar Chia. The hooting and hollering applause which is egged on by signs from the production crew and the adulation given to sports and actors. The most ridiculous is to reality filmers. The Kardashian family are originated from the careful managing of one daughter's sex tape. And now that one daughter is said to be worth 87 million dollars!

Now that says something about our country, that and that the magazines, People, and the National Enquirer, are our highest grossing magazines Everything of value it seems is superficial, vanity and gossip.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Marilyne on May 22, 2016, 02:13:28 PM
I never watch live TV shows like "Good Morning America", "Ellen", "Oprah", et al, because I cannot stand that hysterical screaming when the stars appear, or when any guest is introduced.  It's incredibly annoying, and really grates on my nerves.  I like Ellen, and would like to watch her show and enjoy her funny personality, but it's not worth putting up with the screaming masses.  Fortunately, Oprah now has her own network, and when she is on, or interviewing someone, it's so much more interesting and enjoyable without the audience participation.   
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on May 22, 2016, 02:35:16 PM
Chia, Patricia and Marilyne,   Amen and Amen!!!!!   My "mute" button and closed captioning get a good workout on the rare occasion I do watch one of the "screaming" shows.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Beverly on May 22, 2016, 09:37:26 PM
Agree with all of the above, but do you all remember the old TV shows that were not done with a live audience? Everything was canned laughter then!  ;D
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Ray Franz on May 25, 2016, 10:02:16 PM
I also have received a 2017 calendar.  Damn beggars sure are optimistic.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: halkel on May 25, 2016, 10:48:24 PM
Quote from: Ray Franz on May 25, 2016, 10:02:16 PM
I also have received a 2017 calendar.  Damn beggars sure are optimistic.

Ray I know you will do the Christian thing. 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Ray Franz on May 26, 2016, 10:55:30 AM
Which is?
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Sandy on May 26, 2016, 12:52:21 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on June 11, 2016, 11:21:09 AM
You made me laugh at your posts about nonsense news, t.v. commentators and so forth.  The ads are tasteless to be sure.  Why is everyone dancing on commercials? 

For real news, I read online from BBC (they do have their own opinions), politics is Real Clear Politics and that is more fair than others and Wall Street Journal has more details.

What jars me the most is that we no longer have "Family hours" for television - trying to think of the name of the man in charge of some kind of censorship in order to keep porn and terrible cursing away from children.... Now, there is everything.  The sleaze are in charge. 
we chose Amazon and Netflix because we are sick and tired of a four-letter word.  Writers are actually paid to think up that four-letter word. 

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: JeanneP on July 05, 2016, 02:01:27 PM
Another 45 min. wait on the phone to talk to our Illinois Auto License Office. Have been trying to get them for over a week and so I just hung on.
Now here they are no longer sending out the forms in order for one to renew the stickers. You have to watch and take care yourself. Do it on line or send in a copy of prev. years with a CC number . No personal Cheques.  I did mine on line and it said would come to me in 7 to 10 days. That was a month ago. Still not here. So now they tell me it was mailed to me June 12th. But is going through a cheaper rate of mail. Not first class. Yes on top of the $101 there are charges of $2.37 for mailing and handling.  They will now charge you $200 if they see that you do not have a current new sticker on if 30 days gone buy from when due.
So far the news say that they have collected over one Million . 2 in fines for people since Jan. 1st for having a past due sticker. Man 2 doors down had one 3 years old on his.
You get stopped now for every little thing and get a find. Light outs. Bad muffler. Getting unbelievable. Illinois so short on money they say. Now most street meters are $1 a hour to park . $10 for each ticket gets put on .  Think I will start using the buses.  I had one on my car 2 weeks ago on the Library parking lot that has City meters that you pay until 4pm. I put my car on at 3:45 not thinking.
They got a  worker for Walmart's yesterday. He was burning the Flag and putting in on the Internet. Got a good write up in today paper. What a speech he gave about what he thinks is wrong with the US.  I do agree to something he say but sure was crazy to burn the flag on that day.  People all around the Walmart's wanting him fired and such. I need to go there today but hope it cools down. So many crazy people anymore out there.  It looks like they are not going to be able to get much on him. Seems to have a good lawyer already in court this morning. I had noticed him at Walmart's just the other day. Sort of Asst. Mgr. I think. Just 24.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Chia on July 06, 2016, 09:11:15 AM
JeanneP re: the problem you are having receiving a form from the State: I once had a problem hearing from my State after waiting much too long for an answer...I got in touch with my State Representative (via Email)..explained what was happening, and it wasn't but a few days, that everything was solved with my receiving whatever I needed...
You will be amazed at how fast things will happen when you get in touch with a State Rep...The information to get in touch with them can be "googled"...of course unless you already know..Most people I find have no idea who their state reps are or State senators...
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: JeanneP on July 06, 2016, 02:39:42 PM
Well the young man who burned the flag on July 4th. Went to court yesterday. Had lots of people outside the courthouse with they big signs saying what they should do to him. Thank goodness he isn't  black.
Nothing was done. Judge says it is covered under the first amendment along with freedom of S peach That it was allowed along with getting up in a crowd and saying what you felt. ( Sure doesn't always seem to work that way).

Just hope now that someone doesn't hurt the man someway. As he works for Walmarts some may cause trouble.  They had better not try firing him. He would sue for sure.

Isn't it a strange country we live in anymore?

Now the military will be next. In the paper today about now going a little further in the "Gay" problem they have had for years. Now you can go in as male. and if you decide you want to be female they will cover the medical changes through Gov . Insurance.  This is bound to now be something for Trump to bring up..
Thank goodness I don't have a opinion on any of this.  Just that it seems things should not be being made so public  on both the TV and Internet. Just makes other parts of the world think more that the USA is getting crazy.  Anything goes.....     
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on July 06, 2016, 06:54:43 PM
The Flag "thing" is interesting.
If you burn or "trample" a US Flag it is Free speech.
But - If you If you burn or "trample" any other flag it is hate speech and punishable.  :idiot2:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: JeanneP on July 08, 2016, 12:54:33 PM
The only thing on the Man who burned the flag. Now it is costing the city money to have some sort of Security on him as he has already had 8 death threats and lots of people accosting him on the street.. Don't know about his Job at Walmart's. Suppose they will pay him to take a few weeks off.  Like all others things. It will blow over fast.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on August 12, 2016, 11:44:22 PM
My gripe is about the heat. --------------------- I don't like it (at least this hot). Lots of 90s. More than I can remember ever having. And the humidity has been over the top.

Seems like the more they try to fix "Global warming" the worse it gets.  I have a theory about the bird whackers and their affect on the warming/weather.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Marilyne on August 13, 2016, 11:21:30 AM
Rick - what do you mean by the "bird whackers"?  It's unusually hot here in CA also, but the lack of rain is starting to take it's toll.  El Nino, was a joke here - but looks like it's still in effect in many parts of the US?  Floods and relentless rain across the country, but we haven't seen a drop since April, and that was only a trace. 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: wjoan on August 13, 2016, 11:34:59 AM
Well Rick, we are supposed to be 100 degrees today.  I am not a fan of hot weather either.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on August 13, 2016, 12:06:00 PM
Climate change is here, we are feeling the effects, and we have passed the point of trying to change it. Those who had their industry cash handsful did everything possible to make us believe it wasn't real, that it was merely a phase. Even now, knowing the risks and what is happening, they are hiding their faces while simultaneously holding out their hands for more payola.

This climate is what we as the world have left our descendants.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: halkel on August 13, 2016, 12:21:52 PM
Yep Angel, climate changes all the time and man has nothing to do with it.  Ever hear of the ice ages? 

Texas climate hasn't changed in my lifetime, except gotten a little cooler in the winter in my old part of the world. But some will try and convince you otherwise.

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on August 13, 2016, 06:51:27 PM
Quote from: Marilyne on August 13, 2016, 11:21:30 AM
Rick - what do you mean by the "bird whackers"?  It's unusually hot here in CA also, but the lack of rain is starting to take it's toll.  El Nino, was a joke here - but looks like it's still in effect in many parts of the US?  Floods and relentless rain across the country, but we haven't seen a drop since April, and that was only a trace.
Bird Whackers are those huge windmill things they use to collect the free electric energy. They do kill birds. They also don't get the energy at no cost. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can be converted. My thought is that if you take enough energy from the winds that turn those windmill blades, you remove that energy from what it has been doing in the past - keeping our weather system moving along. Disrupt things and other things change.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Ray Franz on October 01, 2016, 11:26:31 AM
Illinois lawmakers can always find a little pork for their constituents.

A Southern Illinois Representative spent $20,000 of taxpayer money to fix a lighted cross on private land. Why?  So he could get re-elected.

No way to get rid of these clowns.  THEN along comes Trump on the National political scene.

How can he pull so many good people into his gold-plaited gutter.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on October 30, 2016, 11:51:03 AM
FWIW   -   Probably not the right place for this but I couldn't decide where else to post it.

http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/u-s-busts-300-million-fraud-ring-of-phony-irs-callers-arrests-56/ (http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/u-s-busts-300-million-fraud-ring-of-phony-irs-callers-arrests-56/)
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on October 30, 2016, 02:08:48 PM
It seems a good idea to verify everything - all the IRS calls that can be scams for instance. 

A Firefox logo just appeared on my laptop and quick as wink, my security flashed a warning to delete it - apparently a  bogus logo.  The logo wanted me to download something suspicious. 

This laptop is only two years old and was completely dead a few days ago - so irritating.  My old iPad is having some problems too and there is no way to replace it  - now to see if it can be fixed for a reasonable price - oh, yes - that is why they are billionaires.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: halkel on October 30, 2016, 02:40:22 PM
Carol, go to YouTube and type in problem and search.  You might find answer to your problem. Do it for both you IPad and pic.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on October 30, 2016, 02:46:21 PM
It was my understanding that the IRS never phoned but sent letters. I would be very skeptical of any government, banking or other such institution calling me. Now my bank at the time did call me once to get approval for a large check I had written someone. But that has been the only time.

When I used a landline, everything went through the answering machine, and I then decided if I wanted to call back. My cell phone takes messages, and I tend to believe if it is important to reach me, they will call back. I don't jump to answer my phone.

In my own opinion, people don't think, just react and not thinking something through is what the shysters in our world expect.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on October 30, 2016, 05:53:41 PM
The IRS does NOT call people.  This scam was a popular one in this area. I probably got at least 4 "IRS scam calls".  Ignored them.   Every once in a while I get a call from a guy that sounds Indian stating he represents MicroSoft and wants to help me fix my computer. I just tell him I took it into the shop and then hang up.

Other annoying calls are - Chimney cleaning, carpet cleaning, credit card interest reduction (always my last chance), solar panel deals, green people.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Beverly on October 30, 2016, 06:31:50 PM
My favorite is the one who used to call wanting to re-new the warranty on a car I hadn't had for years. Oh, and the ones who want to paint the siding on our house (which is vinyl!)
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on October 30, 2016, 06:45:22 PM
I don't know why, but in the last two months I have gotten repeated letters from local insurance companies, Allstate, Etna, etc.; and cellphone messages from others about upgrading or revising my car insurance. Since I do not, (never have); own a car,and never have driven, it shows how little thought put into these messages, legitimate or not.

The majority of the time, unknown cell phone messages are deleted sight unseen.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on October 30, 2016, 06:53:00 PM
One scam I have never understood their reasoning. Perhaps it is simply their Robo messages, but still....

On my email that plainly begins with angelface, I get all the girls, girls, girls, messages along with dubious performance-enhancing claims. On the one beginning with my last name, I rarely receive any spam. Since all supposed spam is routed to a server and not my email until I delete it or okay it, I don't have viruses. But I think I'm insulted that the perception is of  "angelface"  looking for love in all those wrong places!
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on October 30, 2016, 09:11:38 PM
Patricia, I get those e-mails occasionally too and they go into Spam where I delete them.  And with phone calls, I don't answer a call if I don't recognize the caller.

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: June Drabek on December 26, 2016, 10:09:35 PM
The most annoying call I receive is this sweet voiced girl telling me I have just won a trip to the Bahamas. That's all I listen to before hanging up.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on December 26, 2016, 11:07:34 PM
All of my cell phone calls go to messages if I don't see a name with the number or I'm not by my phone. Since I pay for the cell phone, it is for my convenience.

I am the same way with my front door. I do not jump in a mad rush to answer it and sometimes I do not answer it at all. Those who know me, know this.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: halkel on December 27, 2016, 01:40:07 PM
Angel, I have a neighbor like you, one time I saw her yard full of water and thought she had a leak (fortunately she didn't) but I knew she and her son were home and she would not answer her door or phone, through sheer persistence I finally got her attention, but I always considered her very inconsiderate of neighbors who may just be trying to alert you to a problem.  There could be a fire you are not aware of.



Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on December 27, 2016, 02:26:38 PM
Hal, you know what they say about assumptions.

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: wjoan on December 28, 2016, 10:45:28 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: JeanneP on January 02, 2017, 01:50:05 PM
Going to try and not gripe in 2017 or listen to anyone who does. Been to much in the past few years it seems.

Jeannelee. Hope you have a healthy one this year.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Lindancer on February 21, 2017, 01:23:56 PM
Mary Ann, I never answer the phone, when I do not recognize the caller, the name also goes across my TV.  If it is someone who knows me they will say my name, and say pick up the phone.

I have a glass panel in my door, so I can see the person.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on August 12, 2017, 10:47:39 AM
I have to be in charge of the cell phone and it is so annoying to me.  More and more calls are from telemarketing.

We have good friends with massive health issues and they face their burdens with strong faith - so I will never be as good as them but they are heroes to us. 


I do have a gripe.  Stop anyone from moving to Colorado - the roads are totally jammed.  I hear the same gripe from friends in Seattle and we witnessed the gridlock last year.  My concern is how on earth rescue can get through these messes.  What a waste of fuel sitting on the "freeway". 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: SCFSue on August 12, 2017, 11:14:39 AM
I've solved the unwanted cell phone calls by no longer using my cell phone unless I'm driving out of town (which I haven't done in over a year because my son has grounded me because of a bad fall which has injured my right leg.  I have a car with a clutch and must use 2 legs when driving).  I have ATT home phone service and I learned earlier this year that I can call anywhere in the U.S. as a toll free call.  Perhaps this might be a solution for others with unwanted cell phone calls if they have ATT phone service.  I also use ATT for my internet provider.

SCFSue
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on August 12, 2017, 12:48:28 PM
I keep two cell phones charged. One in my purse and one stays at home. But I do more texting than calling. I use email for the majority of communication so the phones are more for business, taxi's or "government work." I have few calls unrelated but adverts by text seem to be increasing. Since they have a subject line visible, I can delete them without having to pay by opening them.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on December 26, 2017, 04:29:15 PM
First thing I saw when I came into this forum was:

Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.

I think I do so here goes about something that makes me look for my red grading pencil every time "loose" is used for "lose" in a post.  I'll use as an example what is often mentioned this time of year..... getting rid of the calories consumed over the holidays.

If you plan on getting rid of them,  you are going  "LOSE" them (pronounced "looz").  If you type that you want to "LOOSE" them, they'll still be clinging to your hips!
(If you're successful, you will have LOST them - not LOOST them!) 
Spelling makes a difference.

Thank you for listening.  ;D
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on December 26, 2017, 07:04:32 PM
If you take the word LOSE and toss in another "o", it becomes LOOSE.  It sort of loosens it up.  LOOSE - not tight, but loose.  ;D

Now, how about  to, too, two?
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on December 26, 2017, 07:19:37 PM
There must be more complaints or is everybody satisfied.  Loosen up and let us hear about it.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on December 26, 2017, 07:27:32 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on December 26, 2017, 07:40:21 PM
As I recall, the loose comment came from an English teacher.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on December 26, 2017, 08:13:37 PM
I've seen it in  posts by several different people in several different contexts.    May be a "spell check" thing.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on December 26, 2017, 08:17:50 PM
I've noticed the "lose" and "loose" uses but have said nothing.  My gripe is the use of 'he and I" where it should be "him and me" or similar phrases.  I like to think I learned good grammar in school and try to practice it.  There are many cases of using "we" instead of "us". 

I just grin and bear it.

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on December 26, 2017, 10:38:14 PM
I have a gripe. Often I am proofreading a post when the phase "squinting modifier" comes up. What in the world does that mean in English grammar?

Explanations are no help!

"A squinting modifier is an ambiguous modifier (commonly an adverb, such as only) that appears to qualify the words both before and after it. Also called a two-way modifier or squinting construction. A squinting modifier can usually be corrected by changing its position in the sentence.Apr 10, 2017"

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on December 26, 2017, 10:46:16 PM
Angelface,  can you give an example?

Edit: Never mind.  :)   I found this link  https://www.thoughtco.com/squinting-modifier-grammar-1692130 (https://www.thoughtco.com/squinting-modifier-grammar-1692130).

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on December 26, 2017, 11:00:34 PM
That might be hard to do as I've already corrected the error, but while I believe it refers to not having an object for a description, I'm not sure other than entirely rewriting the sentence. Again, from Google, "It is out of place because it could modify the word or phrase that comes before or after it. Squinting modifiers are a type of misplaced modifier, and they can change the meaning of sentences. This is because the intention of the sentence is unclear. As a result, two different sentences (or meanings) exist."


Google comes to my aid. "What is a Squinting Modifier? Definition, Examples of Misplaced Modifiers
Home » The Writer’s Dictionary » What is a Squinting Modifier? Definition, Examples of Misplaced Modifiers

Squinting modifier definition: A squinting modifier is a type of modifier (a word that describes) that is misplaced. A squinting modifier can modify the word or phrase before or after it.

What is a Squinting Modifier?
What does squinting modifier mean? A squinting modifier is a word that describes something, but that is out of place. It is out of place because it could modify the word or phrase that comes before or after it.

Squinting modifiers are a type of misplaced modifier, and they can change the meaning of sentences. This is because the intention of the sentence is unclear. As a result, two different sentences (or meanings) exist.

Squinting modifiers are usually adverbs.

Squinting Modifier Example:

Jumping up and down quickly entertained him.
The problem here is that the adverb “quickly” could modify the phrases “jumping up and down” or “entertained him”
Is it that he was jumping up and down quickly?
Or is it that he was quickly entertained?"

That makes sense. Even if it had three unclear antecedents according to my proofreader.Now if I could fix my other error which is usually using a passive voice in my sentences.


Your link was also helpful.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on December 26, 2017, 11:08:21 PM
How often have you heard "disorientated"?  How does that compare with "disoriented"?
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on December 26, 2017, 11:11:56 PM
"verbs - Disoriented vs. Disorientated - English Language & Usage ...
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/204767/disoriented-vs-disorientated
Perhaps "Disoriented" is more of an adjective, where "Disorientated" is more appropriately a verb. An example would be: Adjective: He became disoriented in the forest. Verb: He disorientated himself in the forest."
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on December 27, 2017, 09:56:35 AM
Patricia, I had never heard the term "squinting modifier" but reading the suggestions shown, I think it refers to the placement of a word/modifier.  Where you place the word determines the meaning. 

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: wjoan on December 27, 2017, 10:52:49 AM
How about the mis use of there and their?   That one ticks me off.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on December 27, 2017, 11:36:14 AM
Thank you, MaryAnn. Apparently, there is also a dangling modifier. I have always enjoyed the vocabulary and story side of the English language, but now I am attempting to learn what never stuck with me all those years ago. How to diagram a sentence, proper use of terms and writing a complete sentence.

I agree with you Joan and also with to or too, was and were or is and are and usually try to go with what sounds right. My issues are mainly using passive rather than active sentences and sentence fragments. Those are some of my worst errors.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on December 27, 2017, 11:43:58 AM
Someone mentioned the use of "her and me" instead of "she and I'.  One of my high school English teachers taught us to read the sentence with only one of the pronouns.  We wouldn't say "Her went to the store"  or "Me is it"  (although I think "It's me" is now fairly common - and I'm as guilty as anyone else about saying this.)

I still diagram sentences in my head!   
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on December 27, 2017, 11:47:17 AM
There / Their
Where is /where are
To, too, two
Except / accept (that often makes me stop and think).

English and History were never one of my strong points. Caused me lots of trouble back in the good old school days.

When I post I often just write as it comes to me. Not paying much attention to the proper King's English.

There are times to be proper and times to lay back and do what comes easily.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on December 27, 2017, 12:26:09 PM
I agree, Rammel.    I'm "talking in my head" when I write - which means I sometimes use "Okie-speak" and "creative" punctuation. 
My philosophy is "Take me for what I mean - not for what I say."  I assure you I do the same for others.
:thumbup:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Marilyne on December 27, 2017, 12:49:32 PM
Both Facebook and Nextdoor, are filled with spelling and grammar errors. Also, sentence structure is a thing of the past.  I don't think it's taught in public schools anymore?

Today, someone on Nextdoor asked the question, "Did anyone loose a down jacket at Oak Meadow Park on the 24th?"

Other that drive me crazy:
using are, instead of our . . . "This is a photo of are house", instead of,  "This is a photo of our house".
Using your instead of you're . . . "Your very welcome", instead of "You're very welcome".
Using there, instead of they're . . . ""There coming for dinner tonight", instead of "They're coming for dinner tonight".
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on December 27, 2017, 01:12:54 PM
I aint got no good english so i aint gunna complane about yaws. 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on December 27, 2017, 01:24:33 PM
I've been taking many classes from Udemy and grammar is one of them that is giving me fits. Sometimes I don't agree with their take on my writing because it is electronic instead of human. Now, in that last sentence, should it be another word other than theirs? It can be confusing.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on December 27, 2017, 01:42:34 PM
Rick, I have long admired your "tag line" and I fully agree with it.

Patricia, I think in your last post that "their" is correct; others may disagree with me.  I used to love grammar in school and like to think I speak and write pretty good English.  Some of the examples above are ones that I notice when reading here.  I think one person who is guilty is a former teacher; I'm not sure.  And I certainly would not identify him/her.  Callie, I use the same test when writing "he and I", by noting I would not write "by he", but "by him".  I can mention one person who was very guilty of the "he and I" thing and he was my deceased brother, Norm.  He can't defend himself now.

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on December 27, 2017, 02:07:21 PM
"He saw a flying bird." "I saw a flying bird." ''I saw him there."  I was never good at diagraming sentences or applying rules of grammar, but I enjoyed supplying the teacher with sentences to use. :thumbup:

Often just reading it back will highlight any errors. However, in my classes, all adverbs and or adjectives tend to be struck such as "really" or the phrase "a number of'" becomes some. For example, MaryAnn, your use of the word pretty in "pretty good English" would be struck. Sometimes the reasons they give are not as clear to me as I believe they should be.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on December 27, 2017, 02:21:11 PM
Patricia, in my phrase "pretty good English", I think pretty is deleted because "good English" would be enough.  If you were to diagram your first two examples of flying birds, He and I would both be the subject and one would replace the other.  I used to love diagramming but I have forgotten much about it, especially when diagramming a complicated sentence. 

We sometimes talk about using the King's English (or Queen's if you prefer), but I think we speak mostly American English because we don't always use the same words that the English use.  I think the English car boot is our car hood - or is it the trunk? 

My Grandmother Tock once cut a piece out of her newspaper about plurals and it makes one wonder why things are not consistent.  I'll see if I can find it, but I know everyone has read similar poems and stories about our English language.

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Lindancer on December 27, 2017, 02:25:15 PM
I agree with Ramal word for word in post 98, I am to too two  old to start worrying
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on December 27, 2017, 02:31:02 PM
Rammel,   :2funny:    Thank goodness you are such a good source of information for those of us to whom computer language is a mystery!

I get confused (become confused?  am confused?......   :uglystupid2: ) on using "who" and "whom" after a preposition.







Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on December 27, 2017, 02:40:16 PM
This is the one from my grandmother.  I also found a similar one from Ann Landers (see how long I've been saving things?)  Mary Ann

THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE

We’ll begin with a box, and the plural is boxes;
But the plural of ox should be oxen, not oxes.
Then one fowl is a goose, but two are called geese;
Yet the plural of moose would never be meese.
You may find a lone mouse, or a whole nest of mice,
But the plural of house is houses, not hice.
If the plural of man is always called men,
Then why shouldn’t the plural of pan be called pen?
Then cow in the plural may be cows or kine;
But a bow, if repeated, is never called bine,
And the plural of vow is vows, never vine.

If I speak of a foot, and you show me your feet,
And I give you a boot, would a pair be called a beet?
If one is a tooth, and a whole set are teeth,
Why couldn’t the plural of booth be called beeth?
If the singular’s this and the plural is these,
Should the plural of kiss ever be nicknamed kese?
Then one would be that, and three would be those,
Yet hat in the plural would never be hose;
And the plural of cat is cats, and not cose.

We speak of a brother, and also of brethren;
But, though we say mother, we never say methren.
Then the masculine pronouns are he, his and him;
But imagine the feminine she, shis and shim!
So the English, I think, you all will agree
Is the queerest language you ever did see.

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on December 27, 2017, 02:44:02 PM
MaryAnn, I just wrote a post in Norm's B&T and the words "really" "definitely" and "pretty" were all struck. Evidently, two words I need to stop using are "really" and "also." I'm not sure, but I think I misjudged your meaning in "one would replace the other." You wouldn't say He saw him there?

The British term "boot" refers to our term "trunk." When I was in college, I took Business English instead of a regular English class for one of my course requirements. The professor redlined one of my first compositions due to my usage of English spellings. He wrote below that he could tell that I read several books by British authors but I needed to use American English and American spellings as it wasn't correct as I was in the habit of doing.

I copied your Grandmother's article, very true!

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on December 27, 2017, 03:10:41 PM
Patricia, you wrote:  He saw a flying bird - and - I saw a flying bird.  Two sentences. If you were to diagram it, they would be identical; "he" is the subject in one sentence and "I" is the subject of the second sentence.  You could use the same diagram for both, and "I" would replace "He" in a separate diagram.

I explain things as clear as mud so I hope you understand what I wrote.

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on December 27, 2017, 03:17:11 PM
I think the problem in "He saw a flying bird" is not making it clear whether he saw a bird that flies (not an ostrich or an emu, for example) or he saw a bird winging its way across the sky.   
(I suspect 99.99% of us would automatically choose the "winging bird"   ;) )
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on December 27, 2017, 03:23:11 PM
In the two sentences, I saw it as one using a personal pronoun and one not. However, then per MaryAnn, they are both personal pronouns.

Calle, I was thinking of a flying bird when I wrote that sentence.

Thank you MaryAnn, I understand now.

What I do not understand is why the writing exercises in my course and by extension, the automatic editing of my email and forum posts, always seem to strike adverbs and adjectives? And practically everything I write is seen as passive voice rather than active.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Marilyne on December 27, 2017, 04:04:39 PM
Patricia - I use the words really, very, and actually, way too much, and I'm sure all three would be struck!  As I've gotten older, (gotten???), I tend to string my written sentences out with a dash, or three dots!  I suspect that my English teachers of long ago, would refer to them as "run on sentences". 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on December 27, 2017, 08:02:57 PM
Quote from: angelface555 on December 27, 2017, 02:07:21 PM
.........
Often just reading it back will highlight any errors..................

Ditto that.
I also recommend doing that when people post a problem.  Read what you posted and decide if it tells the story in an understandable manner. Would you understand it if it was the first time you heard it, and had no pre-concepts?
Title: Mary Ann
Post by: RAMMEL on December 27, 2017, 08:09:53 PM
Mary Ann  ---  About my "tag line". Are you aware of it's source.  It was from an infamous person, well disliked. BUT, it does make a point.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on December 27, 2017, 08:26:19 PM
Rick, no, I am not aware of the source of your quote, but as I said, I like it.  Who was the source?

I do reread my posts before I post them and sometimes I can proofread better after posting something.  It could be because of the wording, and, of course, spelling.  I am a good speller (was going to say pretty good, but not necessary) so do my own checking.  I often change the location of a word to have it modify the right word. 

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: donklan on December 27, 2017, 09:26:17 PM
Another example of our confusing language

If you ever feel stupid, then just read on. If you've learned to speak fluent English, you must be a genius! This little treatise on the lovely language we share is only for the brave. Pursue at your leisure, English lovers.

Reasons why the English language is so hard to learn:

1.  The bandage was wound around the wound.
2.  The farm was used to produce produce.
3.  The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.
4.  We must polish the Polish furniture.
5.  He could lead if he would get the lead out.
6.  The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert.
7.  Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time to present the present.
8.  A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum.
9.  When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.
10.  I did not object to the object.
11.  The insurance was invalid for the invalid.
12.  There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.
13.  They were too close to the door to close it.
14.  The buck does funny things when the does are present.
15.  A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line.
16.  To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.
17.  The wind was too strong to wind the sail.
18.  After a number of injections my jaw got number.
19.  Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear.
20.  I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.
21.  How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on December 27, 2017, 09:36:01 PM
Good one, Don.  I've read it before but this time I saved it to put in my Potpourri.

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: donklan on December 27, 2017, 09:38:41 PM
More of the same..............

Let's face it - English is a crazy language. There is no egg in eggplant, nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in pineapple. English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in France. Sweetmeats are candies while
sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat. We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.

And why is it that writers write but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham? If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth, beeth? One goose, 2 geese.  So one moose, 2 meese? One  index, 2 indices? Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends but not one amend? If you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it?

If teachers taught, why didn't preachers praught? If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat?  Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane. In what language do people
recite at a play and play at a recital? Ship by truck and send cargo by ship?
Have noses that run and feet that smell?

How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and a wise guy are opposites? You  have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which
your house can burn  up as it burns down, in which you fill in a form by filling
it out and in which, an alarm goes off by going on.

English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity
of the human race, which, of course, is not a race at all. That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, but when the lights are out, they are  invisible

.
(And my particular favorite......................Why do we park in a driveway and drive on a parkway?  ?)

PS. - Why doesn't 'Buick' rhyme with 'quick'?

You lovers of the English Language might enjoy this.

There is a two-letter word that perhaps has more meanings than any other two-letter word, and that is 'UP..'

It's easy to understand UP, meaning toward the sky or at the top of the list, but when we awaken in the morning, why do we wake UP ? At a meeting, why does a topic come UP ? Why do we speak UP and why are the Officers UP for election and why is it UP to the secretary to write UP a report?

We call UP our friends. And we use it to brighten UP a room,  polish UP the silver; we warm UP the leftovers and clean UP the kitchen. We lock UP the house and
some guys fix UP the old car. At other times the little word has real special meaning. People stir UP trouble, line UP for tickets, work UP an appetite, and
think UP excuses. To be dressed is one thing, but to be dressed UP is special.

And this UP is confusing: A drain must be opened UP because it is stopped UP. We open UP a store in the morning but we close  it UP at night.

We seem to be pretty mixed UP about UP!  To be knowledgeable about the proper uses of UP, look the word UP in the dictionary. In a desk-sized
dictionary, it takes UP almost 1/4th of the page and can add UP to about thirty
definitions. If you are UP to it, you might try building UP a list of the many ways UP is used. It will take UP a lot of your time, but if you don't give UP, you may wind UP with a hundred or more..



When it threatens to rain, we say it is clouding UP . When the sun comes out we say it  is clearing UP... When it rains, it wets the earth and often messes things UP. When it doesn't rain for awhile, things dry UP.

One could go on and on, but  I'll wrap it UP, for now my  time is UP, so.........it
is time to shut UP!
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on December 27, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Don, I copied this one too, although I may have part of it; just didn't want to check.

I was going to add about driving on the parkway and parking on the driveway, but I saw you had that.  It is a favorite of mine, too.

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: halkel on December 27, 2017, 10:29:05 PM
Mary Ann, the boot is the trunk.  The bonnet is the hood.
keeping your pecker up is to keep your spirits up.  To be knocked up is to be awoken. And so it goes, the Queens English can be quite confusing and it can also get you into trouble if you don't know the true meaning of a term or phrase.

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Marilyne on December 27, 2017, 11:05:33 PM
Rammel:  IBM - Thomas J. Watson?
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on December 27, 2017, 11:49:47 PM
Somewhat prior to IBM ---

http://izquotes.com/quote/85922

As I said, " It was from an infamous person, well disliked. BUT, it does make a point."
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on December 28, 2017, 09:57:10 AM
Rick, I think Hitler's other quotes make points too.  Scary.

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on December 28, 2017, 01:22:47 PM
A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
Language is a city to the building of which every human being brought a stone. -Ralph Waldo Emerson, writer and philosopher (1803-1882)
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Beverly on January 31, 2018, 07:11:41 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing more posts in this discussion. I haven't been posting (or reading) many of the folders for awhile for various reasons, and I miss them.

Callie - Your gripe about using the word loose in place of lose caught my attention! That's one of my biggest gripes and seems to be used more and more frequently.

Newspapers no longer have proofreaders and the spelling on social media is horrendous! It appears that schools don't stress grammar or sentence structure anymore.

Another thing that concerns me is the trend toward not teaching cursive handwriting in schools. Fortunately, my great-grands attend a school where it's still taught and my 11 yr. old great-granddaughter shows promise of being good at it.

I am so sorry to hear of Hal Kelley's passing. I will miss him!
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on January 31, 2018, 08:30:36 PM
I also don't post as much as I did. Also for various reasons, like additional responsibilities around here.

Living here in the NY Metro area I am very accustomed to fractured English. In addition English and History were stumbling blocks for me way back in those great school years. BUT --- I try  ???

My latest gripe is the poor control of the volume of TV stations. While comfortably listening to TV at a nice level a commercial pops in at a level that would wake the dead. Do I listen? No, I mute it.  At the risk of sounding like a sexist I also don't care for the new voice quality of many of the younger females I hear on TV. I think something has altered or damaged their voices.

I agree with Beverly.  MORE posts here
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on January 31, 2018, 09:29:37 PM
I haven't posted in the Gripe folder because I don't have any gripes, or I should say I posted them elsewhere because others started the posts.  I do try to post daily in two or three folders, just not all of them.

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on January 31, 2018, 10:57:43 PM
Here's a quick gripe. I spent the last three hours deleting one program and then digging through boxes and baskets to find another similar program and then through more paperwork for the new, used program's serial number.

All of this came about because of Big Brother Microsoft. I store the majority of my programs, documents, graphics on an external drive so the applications I use, look for the info on that external drive. BB Microsoft continues to re-add and re-direct with empty file folders back on to C Drive even though nothing's stored there. So I waste valuable time deleting their folders and then re-directing the program back to where it needs to look.

They also, within a program that is not a Microsoft owned program, add empty folders redirecting the information to One Drive even though One Drive has been deleted from my computer for over a year! Not to mention periodically turning my touchpad back on when I have it turned off! Now I realize that this is tied into their "Updates," but it has already made one program unusable and has me very frustrated!
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on January 31, 2018, 11:29:10 PM
What Windows version are you dealing with?

I would think a well designed program might "suggest" a location for it's empty folders but give you the option to select your own location.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on January 31, 2018, 11:32:08 PM
Windows ten. Microsoft tells me that I must be somehow doing all this as it couldn't be them....

Rammel, they are adding their one drive folders to a program more than once, that is not made by Microsoft and redirecting the information I had pointing to programs within the external drive to C:/One Drive even though One Drive has not been on my computer for over a year!! This and re-engaging my touchpad happens with each of their updates.

This is not a one time, but several repeated instances
where Microsoft attempts to override the program's instructions in their favor.



Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on January 31, 2018, 11:38:45 PM
"then digging through boxes and baskets to find "

Do we all have that problem ?  I think so.  When we print out that important stuff we know we will remember where it is. But then -------------- :tickedoff:   :idiot2:   ---- never to be found again.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on January 31, 2018, 11:43:38 PM
I'm not using W-10 yet, but - might there be a way to opt out of MS's "One Drive"?  Just deleting there one drive file(s) on your puter may not do that.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on January 31, 2018, 11:45:39 PM
Put    can i opt out of "One drive"?    into google.

Report back
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on January 31, 2018, 11:57:30 PM
I Googled how to delete One Drive from my computer and it hasn't been on my computer for close to two years. I tried that with Cortana, but since Microsoft made it an integral part of 10, you can only turn it off, not delete it. Here is an example.

I use Corel's PSP program to do graphics. Corel is not owned by Microsoft, it only works with Microsoft as do numerous other software programs. After each Microsoft Update, folders show up in Corel for each of that program's functions, redirecting them to C:/One Drive.

Except there is no One Drive on C or elsewhere and the functions should have folders directing them to E:/ Corel. I have to go in repeatedly and manually change them back to E:/ Drive.


Actually, the only reason any of the programs are on C Drive is that they will not completely run on an external drive, only their functions will.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on February 01, 2018, 12:08:25 AM
https://techjourney.net/disable-or-uninstall-onedrive-completely-in-windows-10/     Seems to have a couple/few ways to deal with One Drive.  If MS keeps re-enabling it with updates, then I don't know what to say, except disable it after each update.

If it's just dropping extra folders on your puter I wouldn't be concerned. They don't take up much space.

Reminds me of the days of IE and Netscape, or the JAVA war.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on February 01, 2018, 12:22:06 AM
Rick, I'm not communicating very well in my frustration. First, I went in and disabled and removed One Drive from my computer back in the summer of 2016. The program is not on my computer.

Second, after an update, Microsoft doesn't just install empty folders in programs not owned or serviced by Microsoft.

They add empty folders and actually redirect all files to a nonexistent area on another drive. They redirect to C:/ One Drive which doesn't exist. This means that program stops working as I have directed it to go to E Drive to function.

The program, One Drive isn't being enabled as it isn't on my computer. Only Big Brother Microsoft's redirecting is causing my programs to stop functioning.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on February 01, 2018, 12:38:59 AM
Is it possible that the PSP version for W-10 is deciding to use One Drive, possibly because it uses lots of space.

Suggestion - go to a PSP discussion area and see if others have a similar problem and what the fix is.

I never cared for "Cloud" cxxx.  What happens if you lose your net connection? No computer use?  There has also been some Cloud intrusions.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on February 01, 2018, 12:54:23 AM
I use a physical 4T external drive.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: so_P_bubble on April 26, 2018, 10:27:55 AM
Angel, I also use Window 10.  I have installed an additional 4T hard disk in my computer where I keep all the PSP material.  It is my D-disk. I have a My Document file there with all the subfolders and that is what I use when  doing my graphics.
Microsoft maybe installs empty folders elsewhere - I never checked_ but it does not interfere on my directing things to "D".  I also back up the lot on an external.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on April 26, 2018, 01:02:53 PM
Bubble, I have since fixed that issue by emailing Microsoft and also online chats with Microsoft Assistant. Now an update does not automatically try to redirect.

However, I now have the same as you. I have partitioned an area on my computer for photos and PSP as well as having an external 4T drive that is only attached to the computer when I am downloading or uploading. So there are those two as well as another 4T external drive which is a mirror of everything on my desktop and my laptop.

Since a previous 2006 wipeout virus, I've become somewhat fanatical...
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Sandy on April 26, 2018, 03:01:14 PM
And then there is this one,  that
I believe is very relative to today's political
environment .

"“Make the lie big,
  make it simple,
  keep saying it,
  and   eventually
  they will believe it.”

―Adolf Hitler
    :uglystupid2:

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on April 26, 2018, 08:36:02 PM
Okay.....
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Sandy on April 26, 2018, 09:29:26 PM
Hi Patricia  !!!   

Has Spring arrived to your little corner of the
world??      Here in Maine,  it is just beginning
to "feel"  like better days are ahead!! 

Sandy
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on April 27, 2018, 06:55:05 AM
Hi Sandy! The snow is gone except a few small piles in some shadowed corners, but everything is stark, grays and browns until the expected two weeks of rain that brings the new greens and leaves. "Normally,"(Is there such a thing anymore?); this has already occurred in early April. But not this year!
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: wjoan on May 02, 2018, 04:59:19 PM
My gripe is people who do not speak English well are allowed to answer phones.  I could go into detail, but I am sure you have all been subjected to them.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Lindancer on May 02, 2018, 05:31:35 PM
Joan, I agree with you, and I have it compounded, because I am deaf, and after I ask them to repeat,  a couple have even hung up on me when I said I cannot  understand. I do have also to say I have had a few very nice people on the phone.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: wjoan on May 02, 2018, 06:32:51 PM
Lindancer, I agree.  Not all are hard to understand.  Just frustrating sometimes/
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on May 16, 2018, 10:54:07 PM
Peppy LaPew just went by here.  Seems every summer we get a skunk or two.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: so_P_bubble on May 17, 2018, 02:57:05 AM
https://uk.ask.com/youtube?q=skunk&v=e1unvreDZzs (https://uk.ask.com/youtube?q=skunk&v=e1unvreDZzs)
Friendly?
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on May 17, 2018, 12:46:32 PM
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Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on May 23, 2018, 12:06:56 AM
A real gripe ---
     For the last three days I have been getting calls from  - Apple. Telling me that my iCard has been compromised and I should call/contact/ whatever. 
     The first day they called 7 times. Each time with a different calling number (different area codes also). Only 2 calls today.
     I don't even have an iCard.   Anyone else getting these calls?
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: wjoan on May 23, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
I don't get these at all.  Think that my carrier has good filters on them.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on May 23, 2018, 03:26:38 PM
Did anyone read about Amazon trying to use Facial Recognition?  How do you feel about it?  I can see it would be great try to catch a terrorist, find a missing person and maybe a few other features.  But..... our privacy keeps dwindling and we wonder what happens to our children and their children.  Am I paranoid?

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: SCFSue on May 23, 2018, 06:39:52 PM
Rammel, I think those calls are a scam.  I have started deleting every post I get that I don't recognize the individual person and never a business.  I got burned on that a couple of years ago.

Sue
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on May 23, 2018, 08:40:05 PM
These iCard things were telephone calls. None today.  Maybe they got the message.  I'm sure they were SCAM

My email tonight  had a "communication from "Social Security" to which they wanted a reply.  None of the URL's in their email even had a .gov address. But the whole email did look official. - Scam, scam, scam.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on May 23, 2018, 08:50:03 PM
Quote from: Carol on May 23, 2018, 03:26:38 PM
Did anyone read about Amazon trying to use Facial Recognition?  How do you feel about it?  I can see it would be great try to catch a terrorist, find a missing person and maybe a few other features.  But..... our privacy keeps dwindling and we wonder what happens to our children and their children.  Am I paranoid?
"Am I paranoid?"  I don't think so.
      I seem to recall some European soccer matches using facial recognition to spot the usual soccer game upstarts. Made it easier to spot and eject them.
      So many things, if used properly, are good things. But it seems to be difficult for the powers that be to limit their use to what was intended.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on May 23, 2018, 08:51:57 PM
Quote from: wjoan on May 23, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
I don't get these at all.  Think that my carrier has good filters on them.

Joan --- You are a lucky person   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on May 23, 2018, 09:29:39 PM
For the phone, I have Caller ID and if I don't recognize the name or number, I don't answer.  Almost none of those leave a message and they're easily erased.
Some of the e-mail goes directly into Scam.  I do check to see the address on the e-mail but do delete it.
For the few that make it to my regular e-mail, again, I check to see the address.  Almost always the complete address has nothing to do with the subject matter.

How stupid do people think we are?

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on May 23, 2018, 10:24:29 PM
MaryAnn, going by the spam I see on my email spam filter, that's a surely a rhetorical question?

I have Gmail's spam filter as well as my antivirus's email filter and still one or two slips through. But the practice of showing the subject line makes it easy to send it back to spam.

I also use a VPN or virtual private network provided by my antivirus that allows my internet browsing to be untraceable.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: so_P_bubble on May 24, 2018, 04:40:31 AM
A first for me today: a call with an Asian accent (Indian? Pakistani?) which I answered as usual in Hebrew.  He asked if I spoke English and at my answering 'yes', started to tell me something was wrong with my computer!
I promptly interrupted with "thanks" and cut off the call.
They even get to Israel now? lol
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: SCFSue on May 24, 2018, 11:48:07 AM
I always check my phone which shows incoming telephone numbers.  If I don't recognize the 3 digit area code, I just don't answer it!  The only long distance calls I answer are from either of my sisters or my sons families who don't live in Alabama.

Sue
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on May 24, 2018, 12:42:02 PM
Bubble, from what I understand is that you now have to be careful in answering any question with "yes" because that seems to give the caller information about your credit card or account and they use it to make large purchases.  I am sure you have read about that.  If you don't have Caller ID, I'd get it.  My cost is $10 a month and well worth it but I don't know about costs in other areas.  I hope you've heard the last of it.  But beware!

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Lindancer on May 24, 2018, 12:57:31 PM
Good afternoon, Beautiful day, been setting out side reading the paper and having my coffee,

Mary Ann, I have head about saying yes on the phone to a simple question.  I have caller ID on TV and phone. If someone knows me they will say pick up, Gloria and give there name.

Bubble, now that is a smart way to answer the phone :)
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Lindancer on May 24, 2018, 01:03:19 PM
Carol. Two, of my doctors have hand print sign in. The trouble is I have a hard time there counters are so high, and to put my handprint on the gizmo I have to stand on my toes.  Picture this: I am 4 10 my nose comes to the edge of the counter. ;D
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on May 24, 2018, 09:46:36 PM
Quote from: so_P_bubble on May 24, 2018, 04:40:31 AM
A first for me today: a call with an Asian accent (Indian? Pakistani?) which I answered as usual in Hebrew.  He asked if I spoke English and at my answering 'yes', started to tell me something was wrong with my computer!
I promptly interrupted with "thanks" and cut off the call.
They even get to Israel now? lol

Bubble, I get that call on a fairly regular (but spaced out) basis. To me it always sounds like the same person and he always tries to imply he is calling from MicroSoft. When you state that MS doesn't call people he starts to "sing and dance". I have thanked him and said that I already took my computer in.  Other times I say I don't have a computer, or just hang up.

My wife gets mad that I even answer. But if I don't and they leave a message it is heard on the other extensions.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: so_P_bubble on May 25, 2018, 03:40:50 AM
I only hope it is a lone occurrence. I get plenty of local calls asking money for odd charities. mostly at meals time or late at night. :(  Usually recordings.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on July 05, 2018, 02:28:20 PM
Rammel:  Thank you for mentioning I am not paranoid.  We have ALEXA and use it often mostly to bring special music into the house.  Our daughter is suspicious of ALEXA and in her line of work for a tech company from home - she won't have it in the their house.  We have nothing to hide - or, at least we think that way today. 

Bubble:  As fast as anything is invented, all over the world the lazy crooks want our money and information so they can sell it off.  I am glad to read that Radioman Don is recuperating - I will check in on another site. 

For any phone call, I ask right up front - Who is calling, please?.  We have friends and relatives all over plus Don has the VA call and that can be a recording, so many things. 

Gloria de:  You may be a bit shorter but your mind and soul are in fine shape.  Hugs

I am pretty sure that our Military Intelligence could clear up everything for us as to snooping on our information - because of our freedoms, this will never take place in our time.  As for email trash - I check several daily for SPAM and that will alert the server to look into the issue.  At least, I hope they keep up with SPAM. 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on July 12, 2018, 09:01:26 PM
BIG GRIPE today

Our refrigerator conked out.  Thought it was iced up due to high humidity and being opened up too much. Had it apart, cleaned it, and replaced the fan and thought it was OK -------- BUT-------Today it was getting warm again and the ice cream was soft.

Ordered a new one and that will take a week for delivery. So will live out of Styrofoam boxes 

My Gripe We have an older house and the doorways are narrow. In order to get the old Refer out and a new one in I have to take apart the kitchen door jamb.  Seems I'm not as young as I used to be  :'(  Twelve years ago when we redid the kitchen it seemed easy. ----- Now, NOT SO MUCH
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: so_P_bubble on July 13, 2018, 03:00:41 AM
Had that problem with narrow door here too. We unscrewed the fridge door because opening it flat did not help in turning it in. That was not too hard.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on July 13, 2018, 01:01:31 PM
Guys, there a lot more brass and rust in those old so-called golden years! Who knew in just four years that I could manage to only deep clean one side of the kitchen, rest the next day and on the third day, deep clean the other half?

I used to manage apartments back years ago and could clean a one bedroom in a half hour and a two or three bedroom in an hour. I  ran miles around the cleaning staff and assistant managers. Now it takes five to six hours to do a weekly clean in my apartment with more than one rest period and do laundry! :(
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on July 13, 2018, 01:34:09 PM
Pat,
When you had that apartment cleaning job you weren't one of those that only had ONE rag for all jobs, were you?   :tickedoff:

It always bugged me when they came in and did the bathroom, then wiped the phone and the "sanitized" glasses (wrapped in special paper to prove their condition). 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on July 13, 2018, 02:52:59 PM
Rick, I was an apartment manager for two hundred apartments in three complexes plus a walk in condo in Wasilla and a three bedroom apartment in the Alyeska Ski Resort, while the owners lived in Germany. My ex-husband, co-manager; did all maintenance while we had a six-person cleaning staff and a married couple who were assistant managers.

There was no wrapping anything in paper, and we didn't have the time or energy to do make arounds. We were the sandwich between the owners and the renters, not a comfortable place to be and we lasted six years when the average was three. Many of the apartments were rented in blocks by companies, (This was in the pipeline era.). Alaska Airlines rented six apartments in Anchorage for their staff layovers.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on July 16, 2018, 11:41:52 AM
Pat:  How can I complain about housework after your description?  I can truly see that it is tough work - even what I have done over the years has seemed to be exhausting some days.  It never was day after day though.  I hope you have some help - any little help is welcome at times. 

My gripe:  Driving in the city of Denver --- it is clogged and there seems to always be someone whipping through & changing lanes thinking they will get there faster.  Must always get ahead of the vehicle in front - just to stop at the next red light.  Don't forget - lights turning red mean speed up and race through it.  Housing is totally out of control - we could sell our place in ten minutes but "where would we go"?  Should I tell them that those cute Prairie Dogs carry the Bubonic Plague?  That is true!
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on July 16, 2018, 12:53:47 PM
Carol, we have several local military bases, and it was in the paper a few years back that driving here was the same proportionally as Los Angeles, so I understand. I have relatives on the other side, long time farmers from Grand Junction, Ouray, and Colorado Springs so I hear about it.

The housecleaning fights with old bones and no natural up and downs anymore. It helps that last year I finally decluttered but my gripe such as it is, revolves around shopping is no longer an enjoyable past time. I used to enjoy an afternoon or morning out with friends followed by lunch but now no one shops, we donate.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on July 17, 2018, 11:18:10 AM
Pat:  If your relatives are still farming, bless them!  It is so dry everywhere - a disaster.  I cannot remember how many states get water from the Colorado river - it is not producing enough for everyone. 

I guess my gripe would be - people should stop building pools in their yards, stop growing the green grass that needs so much moisture, etc.  My biggest gripe is:  developers still grading everything to to build homes and then the entrance has a "water feature". 

Another gripe while I am at it:  the city crooks (politicians) pushing for winter Olympics when we are in a huge downturn in the snowfall area. 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on July 17, 2018, 12:17:27 PM
Carol, my relatives, moved from Salinas, Kansas in the twenties and thirties to Colorado and a few to Northern California. My other relatives farmed in Joplin, Missouri and the surrounding areas on my paternal side.
I'm not sure how many of the generation after mine still farm. I do know that my mother's uncle never married but became caught up in researching our maternal family"s Irish lineage, pre-computers; back through sixteen hundred in Ireland only to find we were still farming!  :)

Here, everyone wants to live on one of the foothills or by one of the rivers.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on July 23, 2018, 05:57:55 PM
Isn't it interesting on how our ancestors lived and made a living?  Supporting family - and including cousins, nephews and nieces, grandparents in their homes many times.  They lived such kindly lives. 

Gripe:  I have to go into my mail and check off the SPAM now - it is about 4 to 6 SPAM daily.  Crum! 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on July 23, 2018, 09:12:03 PM
I do, too, Carol - and my son told me if I "block sender" or "block sender's domain", I'm just telling them they got a real e-mail address.  So I've just been marking new ones "Junk" and that's where they automatically go when they come through again. 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on July 24, 2018, 08:52:07 AM
Callie:   Don't you wish you could send them to jail? 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on July 24, 2018, 09:04:04 AM
Good Morning all!  We have moisture in the air but at the cost of mudslides in the steep hills.  It looks like a Seattle sky here this morning but I don't hear the fog horn.

I have been downloading library audio books for years on an old iPod.  Yesterday, the iPod just did not take the newer version from the library.  Another worthless and once expensive electronic device - Don said "That is how Apple makes so much money".  Another Crum Bum experience.  First, the library keeps messing with (changing) their access - it was so easy years ago.  Next, the corporations bring out new versions and make sure the older versions are not compatible. 

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on July 24, 2018, 12:59:55 PM
Quote from: Carol on July 24, 2018, 08:52:07 AM
Callie:   Don't you wish you could send them to jail? 

There and a few other places I can think of!   :tickedoff:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on July 24, 2018, 01:35:17 PM
Since I already have chemical issues due to foods that send me to the hospital with analeptic shock; this is my basic gripe!

"https://cookinglight.com/news/ritz-cracker-salmonella-recall-whey?utm_source=cookinglight.com&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily&utm_content=2018072412PM&eminfo=%7b"EMAIL"%3a"XyEEYFyXlFRc6HI0TvrnxlRYfqTVf7fO"%2c"BRAND"%3a"CK"%2c"CONTENT"%3a"Newsletter"%2c"UID"%3a"CK_WKN_E7A49C64-F7D0-49EE-9A1E-5305597EBE66"%2c"SUBID"%3a"103807508"%2c"JOBID"%3a"834248"%2c"NEWSLETTER"%3a"WEEKLY_NEWSLETTER"%2c"ZIP"%3a"99701"%2c"COUNTRY"%3a""%7d"

Only the newest of multiple foods recalls this year!

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: wjoan on July 24, 2018, 01:48:00 PM
I rarely get spam in my Gmail account.  I use a different email for when I order online so that keeps Gmail clean for me.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on July 24, 2018, 07:44:56 PM
Just discovered this at the bottom of the page that comes up on the Forum Link:
Users active in past 60 minutes:
wjoan, JaneS, jane, Sasha, Shirley, alpiner1, Cottoncandy, Google (4)
[Administrator]  [Global Moderator]

Why is Google listed as a user at all?

Also saw a list of Recent posts on which anyone can see who posted and where.  That's an invasion of privacy, IMO!
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on July 24, 2018, 09:29:10 PM
Google and sometimes Yahoo will show up on the list shown. They do that for their search programs.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: CallieOK on July 24, 2018, 10:19:44 PM
Does that mean someone has done a Google search or that Google is doing the searching for itself?
I'd also seen Yahoo mentioned at another time.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on July 25, 2018, 01:00:01 AM
Its part of its mapping system so if someone Googled Senior & Friends, it would be up to date.Yahoo search is the same.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on July 27, 2018, 11:22:11 AM
wJoan:  Every minute of the day, there is someone on earth trying to get into our information.  There is a special place for them.....

angel:  There seems to be a lot more reporting of food products that have been mishandled.  I always think of the time both Don and I became sick at same moment after eating at a fish place.  We didn't report it - felt too weak to even make the call.  We even had different meals but something was very wrong.  A lot of the problems go right to the required safety procedure and then just WHO are they hiring plus what is the training. 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on July 27, 2018, 12:03:00 PM
Carol, there was an article in the emagazine of CookingLight and another one in the emagazine Domino talking about the issue, how it is already the most substantial number of outbreaks seen in years and how widespread rather than localized it is.  Both articles stated that these attacks were not expected to go back to previous levels.

The latest, affecting milk products, Ritz and Goldfish brands among others is due to whey, a milk product added to many different food products in production. The Romaine was traced to an irrigation ditch in Arizona that fed many different fields in that area of the state. No one knows how it got into the canal or from where. Sometimes it is on the machinery.

I have seen some places close here through the years after they've been written up and the health reports and inspections have been publicized. It always seems to be a fast food franchise or one of those cafeteria places.

I was sickened many years ago after eating at a cafe in Nenana, ironically called Moms. There were several people hospitalized, and it was traced back to a dish of mayonnaise in a stainless steel server, left out and not placed in ice. The cafe closed and they had to pay for everyone's hospitalization.

Another time, my daughter at six or seven months was hospitalized with two other babies as the babysitter only had one soft baby spoon which she used for all. It turned out that one of the babies had a severe case of strep. That sitter lost her accreditation, license, several thousand dollars and finally her insurance. So it pays to be aware as a consumer and also as a business.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on August 04, 2018, 02:47:38 PM
Angel:  Your story of your child becoming sick makes me furious.  It must have almost given you a heart attack and the poor darlings had to feel so poorly. 

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on August 15, 2018, 07:36:51 PM
Today I'm griping about the "No-see-ems". Recent high humidity must have brought them out of hiding.  Bite, bite, bite   -   itch, itch, itch.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: so_P_bubble on August 16, 2018, 04:52:48 AM
Did you try vinegar against the itch? Works wonders on jelly fish stings or mosquitoes bites.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: wjoan on August 16, 2018, 11:00:01 AM
AND on sunburn.  LOL
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on August 16, 2018, 11:08:20 AM
I tried ammonia right on the bites. -- not too good.  I'll try vinegar the next time.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on August 16, 2018, 05:43:35 PM
After washing the area with a mild antibacterial soap, apply a lubricating, alcohol-free moisturizer like CeraVe, Cetaphil, Vanicream, or Eucerin to your skin during the day and before bed. Apply cool, wet compresses to soothe the itch. Take a bath in lukewarm water and colloidal oatmeal or baking soda

We have tiny gnats called noseeums, different than the bugs further south and tiny new seasonal mosquitos as well as the larger mosquitos who hibernated through the winter by burrowing into the wood.

To whip up your own version, mix a small amount of water with baking soda to create a paste and apply topically to the bite. Rubbing an ice cube on the bite location can also provide temporary relief from the itch. Juice from a lemon or lime slice can also help calm the itch from a gnat or mosquito bite.

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on August 28, 2018, 02:34:18 PM
Parking Lots!  The painted lines in parking lots are being painted closer just for another car or two can get in the lot.  Also, it is so stupid to be backing out of the spots and so difficult to see traffic oncoming.  Disaster in the making.

I came out of a store and tried to help a gal backing out - by hand signals I had her stop because traffic there stops for no one.  My car was in a spot where I could pull forward - wouldn't you think they could build a better parking plan? 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on August 28, 2018, 07:25:10 PM
I totally agree with you.  I hate the diagonal parking spaces.  When an SUV parks next to you you hardly have enough room to get in a regular sized car, and it is impossible to see oncoming traffic while trying to back out.  I often just inch back and keep an ear open for a horn.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: so_P_bubble on August 29, 2018, 09:29:04 AM
Whenever possible I always try to back-up in a parking space.  It makes it easier to get out!
My gripe is driver parking so close to the driver side of my car, so that I cannot open the door enough to get near with the wheelchair. They don't realize there is a reason why handicapped parking is wider than normal??? More than once at the mall I had to ask another customer to bring my car forward so that I could access.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on August 29, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
Around here it would be illegal to back into a diagonal space.  I guess I'm thinking of on a street, not in a store's parking lot.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: so_P_bubble on September 01, 2018, 02:30:30 AM
My street, in  front of my building, has the diagonal parking.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on September 01, 2018, 11:54:23 AM
The majority of the malls here have diagonal parking, and when I'm on the city buses, I can see how hard it is for the driver to maneuver between cars, pedestrians who aren't paying attention and crowded lots.  For some odd reason, all the major grocery stores tend to congregate anchoring malls in a group.

Safeway, Fred Meyers, Walmart, along with the accompanying satellite stores congregate cheek to jowl. One group on the west side and one on the east side. On the north and south are the car lots and industrial areas, with the train tracks encircling the lot. That is one reason I avoid those areas and shop in the smaller stores, better service, better products.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on September 03, 2018, 02:03:46 PM
My HP laptop froze yesterday and at the same time, the auto voice kept repeating a message to call a phone number on the screen. The message on the screen told me that my laptop had been hacked and my security was at risk.  Sure - don't believe anything if it happens to you--- Don pulled down the updates to security and that message disappeared.  It was scarey and I am sure a lot of people go to that site and perhaps even pay. 

This part is not a gripe - so very happy to have normal temperatures today - hooray, fall is here in Colorado and finally not a hot afternoon.  This is how it should be everywhere. 

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on September 24, 2018, 02:29:54 PM
Now more important than ever -
BUYER BEWARE

Ordered an air conditioner. They eventually told me it wasn't available but suggested a replacement.
The replacement suggested was 2 to 3 inches bigger in all directions. Great suggestion --- if ordered it would not have fit.

Just about anything ordered has a problem somewhere along the line.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on September 25, 2018, 12:39:37 PM
Yes, it is difficult to order and remember to check every detail and they still get it wrong.  Hope all is well with your air conditioner now. 

My gripe is about the new Denver VA building - it  is 5 years late in opening and billions over cost.  Don had an appointment at the new building and the parking building was totally full.  He tried that twice - nothing.  He ended up having to park blocks away and walking to his appointment.  Not everyone going to the VA can walk to their appointment.  This is our wasted tax dollars given to dimwits and crooks.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on September 25, 2018, 06:17:07 PM
Quote from: Carol on September 25, 2018, 12:39:37 PM
Yes, it is difficult to order and remember to check every detail and they still get it wrong.  Hope all is well with your air conditioner now.  My order has been cancelled (I think). I will finish out this season with what I have - with it's mold smell and rusty pan. Maybe in the spring ordering will be better.

My gripe is about the new Denver VA building - it  is 5 years late in opening and billions over cost.  Don had an appointment at the new building and the parking building was totally full.  He tried that twice - nothing.  He ended up having to park blocks away and walking to his appointment.  Not everyone going to the VA can walk to their appointment.  This is our wasted tax dollars given to dimwits and crooks.
It is shameful what has become of the VA.  If it was a regular business heads would roll.  The parking is very important and as you said, some can't walk very far.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on September 25, 2018, 06:32:58 PM
Rick, unless things have changed (and I've been out of the appliance business for probably 40 years), the companies decide how many fans and air conditioners they will make for a season.  When they're out of them, they're out.  Since you ordered late in the season, they probably were out of what you want and new models will be made during the winter for the 2019 season.  Seasonal equipment isn't usually available all year long.

Mary Ann
Title: Mary Ann
Post by: RAMMEL on September 25, 2018, 06:54:42 PM
Mary Ann,
I think it's still that way.  I ordered because they showed that some were still available.  Probably didn't keep good inventory count.
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on December 03, 2018, 07:56:05 PM
today's gripe -
My project/challenge for today is to try to get my Smoke/CO detectors to work correctly. I'm just trying to follow the easy to follow instructions to get them to "communicate"(link) with each other.  I think my hearing will be shot for a while after this.

Looks like everyone else is in good shape with no gripes.  Look at all the happy people   :roflBig:

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on December 04, 2018, 09:20:18 PM
Rick:  Can you hear me now????  :) -- Really, I hope you were able to fix the alarms. 

I don't know what happened - I can't have been so busy that I forgot to check on all of you.  It just seems that the daily "To Do" list keeps getting longer.

Angel:  Are you alright after the quake?  I have not heard if they could feel it in Sitka.  Talk about old news - after two days they barely run the story and what a huge and expensive fix this will be to all. 

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on February 01, 2019, 06:29:58 PM
Not a gripe, but didn't know where else to put it.


This is good information, course, probably won't remember them, but, informative...

PLAIN NEAT INFORMATION..........

Glass takes one million years to decompose, which means it never wears out and can be recycled an infinite amount of times!

Gold is the only metal that doesn't rust, even if it's buried in the ground for thousands of years.

Your tongue is the only muscle in your body that is attached at only one end.

If you stop getting thirsty   , you need to drink more water. When a human body is dehydrated, its thirst mechanism shuts off.

Zero is the only number that cannot be represented byRoman numerals.

Kites were used in the American Civil War to deliver letters and newspapers.

The song Auld Lang Syne is sung at the stroke of midnight in almost every English-speakingcountry in the world to bring in the new year.

Drinking water after eating reduces the acid in your mouth by 61 percent. Drinking a glass of water before you eat may help digestion and curb appetite.

Peanut oil is used for cooking in submarines because it doesn't smoke unless it's heated above 450F.

The roar that we hear when we place a seashell next to our ear is not the ocean, but rather the sound of blood surging through the veins in the ear.

Nine out of every 10 living things live in the ocean.

The banana cannot reproduce itself. It can be propagated only by the hand of man.

Airports at higher altitudes require a longer airstrip due to lower air density.

The University of Alaska spans four time zones.

The tooth is the only part of the human body that cannot heal itself.

In ancient Greece   , tossing an apple to a girl was a traditional proposal of marriage.  Catching it meant she accepted.

Warner Communications paid 28 million for the copyright to the song Happy Birthday, which was written in 1935!

Intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair.

A comet's tail always points away from the sun.

The Swine Flu vaccine in 1976 caused more death and illness than the disease it was intended to prevent.

Caffeine increases the power of aspirin and other painkillers, that is why it is found in some medicines.

The military salute is a motion that evolved from medieval times, when knights in armor raised their visors to reveal their identity.

If you get into the bottom of a well or a tall chimney and look up, you can see stars, even in the middle of the day.

When a person dies, hearing is the last sense to go. The first sense lost is sight.

In ancient times strangers shook hands to show that they were unarmed.

Strawberries and cashews are the only fruits whose seeds grow on the outside.

Avocados have the highest calories of any fruit at 167 calories per hundred grams.

u moves about two inches away from the Earth each year.
The Earth gets 100 tons heavier every day due to falling space dust.

Due to earth's gravity it is impossible for mountains to be higher than 15,000 meters.

Mickey Mouse is known as "Topolino" in Italy.

Soldiers do not march in step when going across bridges because they could set up a vibration which could be sufficient to knock the bridge down.

Everything weighs one percent less at the equator.

For every extra kilogram carried on a space flight,530 kg of excess fuel are needed at lift-off.

The letter J does not appear anywhere on the periodic table of the elements.
Good friends are like stars. You don't always see them, but you know they are always there


This is good information, course, probably won't remember them, but, informative...

PLAIN NEAT INFORMATION..........

Glass takes one million years to decompose, which means it never wears out and can be recycled an infinite amount of times!

Gold is the only metal that doesn't rust, even if it's buried in the ground for thousands of years.

Your tongue is the only muscle in your body that is attached at only one end.

If you stop getting thirsty   , you need to drink more water. When a human body is dehydrated, its thirst mechanism shuts off.

Zero is the only number that cannot be represented byRoman numerals.

Kites were used in the American Civil War to deliver letters and newspapers.

The song Auld Lang Syne is sung at the stroke of midnight in almost every English-speakingcountry in the world to bring in the new year.

Drinking water after eating reduces the acid in your mouth by 61 percent. Drinking a glass of water before you eat may help digestion and curb appetite.

Peanut oil is used for cooking in submarines because it doesn't smoke unless it's heated above 450F.

The roar that we hear when we place a seashell next to our ear is not the ocean, but rather the sound of blood surging through the veins in the ear.

Nine out of every 10 living things live in the ocean.

The banana cannot reproduce itself. It can be propagated only by the hand of man.

Airports at higher altitudes require a longer airstrip due to lower air density.

The University of Alaska spans four time zones.

The tooth is the only part of the human body that cannot heal itself.

In ancient Greece   , tossing an apple to a girl was a traditional proposal of marriage.  Catching it meant she accepted.

Warner Communications paid 28 million for the copyright to the song Happy Birthday, which was written in 1935!

Intelligent people have more zinc and copper in their hair.

A comet's tail always points away from the sun.

The Swine Flu vaccine in 1976 caused more death and illness than the disease it was intended to prevent.

Caffeine increases the power of aspirin and other painkillers, that is why it is found in some medicines.

The military salute is a motion that evolved from medieval times, when knights in armor raised their visors to reveal their identity.

If you get into the bottom of a well or a tall chimney and look up, you can see stars, even in the middle of the day.

When a person dies, hearing is the last sense to go. The first sense lost is sight.

In ancient times strangers shook hands to show that they were unarmed.

Strawberries and cashews are the only fruits whose seeds grow on the outside.

Avocados have the highest calories of any fruit at 167 calories per hundred grams.

The moon moves about two inches away from the Earth each year.
The Earth gets 100 tons heavier every day due to falling space dust.

Due to earth's gravity it is impossible for mountains to be higher than 15,000 meters.

Mickey Mouse is known as "Topolino" in Italy.

Soldiers do not march in step when going across bridges because they could set up a vibration which could be sufficient to knock the bridge down.

Everything weighs one percent less at the equator.

For every extra kilogram carried on a space flight,530 kg of excess fuel are needed at lift-off.

The letter J does not appear anywhere on the periodic table of the elements.

Good friends are like stars. You don't always see them, but you know they are always there

Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: SCFSue on February 19, 2019, 11:08:21 AM
Rick, I try to "thimk!"  but it's getting harder by the day!

SCFSue--who will be 82 on the Ides of March (the 15th!).
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on February 20, 2019, 08:06:26 PM
Quote from: SCFSue on February 19, 2019, 11:08:21 AMRick, I try to "thimk!"  but it's getting harder by the day!

SCFSue--who will be 82 on the Ides of March (the 15th!).
Well, ------ Happy Birthday now. Just in case I don't thimk of it then.
:cheers:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Lindancer on March 02, 2019, 08:01:58 PM
I miss years ago we could go  nearly every Sat. night we would take our two sons and go to the movies. (we called it family night) sometimes before we would go for pizza or some night we would go to  the ice cream parlor for a soda or sundae after the show. They look forward to us going out together. they were 13 and 7
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on March 02, 2019, 08:45:46 PM
Gloria de, there may be some families that can do what you used to do, but kids today have so many things thrown at them, not always as important as family nights, but their peers mean more to them than family.  I have often said I was glad I grew up at the time I did because we did things as a family, such as going to the neighborhood movie or even playing outside during the day - all year long.  We didn't have TV and our radio time was around suppertime.  I think for the most part "them days is gone forever". 

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: SCFSue on March 04, 2019, 01:01:07 PM
Good morning Mary Ann and whoever might be looking in now.  It's a cold blustery day here with lots of wind and a lower temperature.  My azaleas have started to bloom and I'm afraid we'll have a killing frost tonight--but hopefully they are hardy enough to survive. 

There was a tornado not far from here on Saturday--in Beauregard which is east of Opelika where Tim and Kris (son and DIL) live.  Tim came by this morning to check on me and said they had no damage.  He helped me with some paper work and then went to the Kroger store near his home in Opelika.  He does most of the cooking at their house.  There was lots of damage in Beauregard--something like 24 homes were severely damaged and some loss of life.  Mother Nature was not good to Alabama yesterday!

I'm having left-overs for lunch, so will get to that shortly.  It's pretty chilly outside, but I'm going to bundle up and at least walk around the block before fixing lunch.

Have a nice day!
Sue
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Mary Ann on March 04, 2019, 03:01:19 PM
Sue, I'm glad to see a post from you.  I saw Auburn on a map on the Weather Channel a while ago and thought of you but I had no idea how close the tornadoes were to you.  I am happy you had no damage, also that your son is OK. 

You answered here my question in Norm's B&T.

Mary Ann
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Lindancer on March 04, 2019, 09:40:09 PM
Good evening, snow did not amount to much.  The day before people were going crazy. Someone said 4 to 8 inches of SNOW I bank in stop and shop, but had a hard time finding a parking place, every register was open and long lines. I was lucky no line in the bank. Next someone will announce Hurricane and there is run on beer and sweets :)

SCFSue, I was worried about you when I heard about the
tornado in Ala. Cyriel had and aunt we stayed in Opelika, the rest of his family lived in the Valley.  He was born in Alex City.

MaryAnn Friday night was the big night when I was growing up.  My friends would come over to the house and my mother would play the piano or she would roll up the parlor rug and play the victrola and we would dance, She also would make hot chocolate.She like to dance also, and lots of Sat. nights she would wear and evening gown and go to a dance at the Elks Club. Of course in the winter there was the basketball games. Of course you end up at one of the ice cream parlors.At my age 95  I feel bad for all the lost family memories if that can be called  agripe, I guess sadly that would be it. memories
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on March 11, 2019, 04:42:49 PM
My gripe is the foul language in movies - can the writers not think of anything? So depressing - it just ruins a good story.  In my house, nothing was allowed and in my family it was the same.  My favorite story on one son.  He came in the house after playing in the woods with his siblings.  Sulking and mad - I asked him what was wrong.  he said "Well, I have to wash my mouth out with soap because I said a bad word".  I asked him if he needed help and he said no and he did indeed go to the sink and washed his mouth with soap. 

Here is another gripe.  They hired a new weather girl here - she drives us crazy with her arms flapping while walking around and speaking too fast and wants to be "cute".  And, weather (unless it is a real storm) doesn't have to be mentioned three times in the half hour. 

On a roll here - if you do an internet search on insurance, for instance, you will most likely get a phone call really quickly.  We are being tracked all the time. 

I hope everyone is safe with all the poor weather going around. 



Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Carol on March 11, 2019, 04:49:19 PM
In four days---Happy Birthday! 
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: RAMMEL on March 11, 2019, 08:52:46 PM
Quote from: Carol on March 11, 2019, 04:42:49 PMHere is another gripe.  They hired a new weather girl here - she drives us crazy with her arms flapping while walking around and speaking too fast and wants to be "cute".  And, weather (unless it is a real storm) doesn't have to be mentioned three times in the half hour. 
I certainly "ditto" this part.  TV in general has taken a dive --- poor audio in total. Squeaky whining voices. mumbling, dropping off at end of sentence, running stuff together.  I think the constant use of texting has made people incapable of normal talking.  Our weather reports have become long scientific dissertations.  Isobars, cold fronts, low pressure fronts, etc, etc. - just tell me, is it going to rain?

My other gripe is about ordering things. Seems most businesses have trouble getting a whole order done with no errors (this would include delivery [which is not part of the company ordered from]).  :tickedoff:   >:(    :tickedoff:
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: angelface555 on March 13, 2019, 12:36:30 AM
I am getting so fed up with all of these scammers, and all who are trying to attack your emails, your accounts and or where you shop! Then there are the companies such as Microsoft, Apple, Google, Yahoo and others who never announced security breaches until someone else announces it months and sometimes years later.

The latest one is a May 28th of last year breach of an Interior Design firm, Houzz. You may have heard of the company when they have specials of stars or other notables using Houzz for decorating their own or someone else's home or property. This breach from last May!?! was only announced March twelfth!?!

I found out my account was breached and even if I only used it to save house and garden photos, the thieves still have my email and the site password. Think of those who purchased through the site and had credit account numbers stolen!
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Vanilla-Jackie on August 31, 2020, 03:59:00 AM
Been talking recently about making it illegal parking half on the road- half on the path and issuing a fine...Not only do these cars obstruct the narrower paths for disabled scooters but also for dog walkers with more than one dog, people visually impaired, and parents pushing a pram-pushchair forcing us into the road..The argument one spokesman made was it is not illegal to park on a pavement but it is illegal to drive on it...which is the only way to drive on it to be able to get on the the pavement in the first place...just using it an an excuse to flaunt the law..

Of course the argument has always been that some roads are too narrow that if these cars didn't take up half road-half pavement, the ambulances and fire engines with sirens blaring wont be able to get past...yes valid point taken but i see cars taking up half road-half pavement even on wide roads-streets...

Since my move, i faced this issue a couple of weeks ago when i visited a friend, i had to pass several shops with seating's outside, and dodged several uneven pavements and pot holes yet on the other side of the road looked more even, there was a long row of cars half on-half off the road so i stayed on the worse side of the road, the slopes, the mixture of different pavement stones, talk about a bumpety bump ride, i was terrified i was going to be thrown off, and done this journey at a snails pace.....
Title: Re: Gripes
Post by: Vanilla-Jackie on November 13, 2020, 06:01:00 AM
Not a gripe but on our BBC news...one of our UK's most notorious - prolific serial killers Peter Sutcliffe known as The Yorkshire Ripper has died age 74, had been suffering, and died from " Covid 19 " and was said to have refused treatment, other health conditions, heart problems - diabetes...All together now, no pity spared on him, nor will mourn the passing of this man, " what goes around, comes around " " our God works in mysterious ways. "...In the late 1970's Sutcliff terrorised the North of England murdering 13 women and attempting to murder seven others, ( residential areas and red light districts ) he was given 20 life sentences after admitting his crimes in 1981...This is " music to the ears " of his victims surviving and younger families...