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Corona Virus

Started by jane, April 03, 2020, 04:59:02 PM

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diglady

Here is a report from CDC re: no transmission because masks were worn:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e2.htm?s_cid=mm6928e2_e&deliveryName=USCDC_921-DM32906

Wear a mask when out and about.

Amy

diglady..

One can choose

Mask it

Or casket

I can't change the direction of the wind, but I can adjust my sails to always reach my destination.
Jimmy Dean
If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. -Will Rogers

jane

I see WalMart is saying MASKS required beginning next week.  I wonder how many bouncers they'll have to hire to get all the people to really do that.  Here I don't see younger people...30s/40s wearing them at all.



FlaJean

The last time we were at Walmart's about half the people were wearing masks---the older people. 😊

jane

Yep...here, too.....very few of those under 50 and only old men...none of the younger ones.  Guess it's more "manly" to get sick or infect your family than wear a mask!  Here you can't get a test unless you have symptoms. 

jane

angelface555

Locally, before we started re-opening, we had gone a little over three weeks without a new case. Before that, we had six that were traced back to a single medical building. That building had two tenents, an orthopedic clinic, and a medical clinic. All other cases were happening in Anchorage, 400 miles south, or a neighboring city to Anchorage, with three deaths. About half of the people in two groceries I frequented wore masks. Other than that, everything was on lockdown.

Then came phase one re-opening and nonresidents arrived for state park jobs, visiting, tourism, or summer fisheries jobs, which are very high paying because it's dangerous work. Four days after re-opening, new cases exploded. Within eight days, we had gone from statewide cases numbering in the three hundred to four hundred than six hundred. Then new cases began doubling each day, and now we are over a thousand, 1631 as of yesterday, with 17 deaths. Separate counting of nonresidents stands at a little over three hundred within fourteen days of re-opening.

Yet go into any grocery, and about half are in masks. All buses, taxis are closed. Senior rides and VanTran are impossible to get due to the deluge. If you don't drive or have access to friends with a vehicle, you are stranded. Yet, you still see folks out without any masks.

Marilyne

Patricia - Sorry that Fairbanks now has a significant number of cases.  Unfortunately, that's the price we pay, when people are allowed to migrate from one state to another.  They bring the virus with them!  After New York got their extreme number of cases under control, their Governor Cuomo, issued a mandate, that no out of state tourists/visitors/workers would be allowed into NYC, unless they agreed to shelter in place for 14 days.  I'm not sure how they managed to enforce the ruling,  but somehow they did, because the number of cases dropped dramatically.  The hospitals that were overflowing with patients, were suddenly emptying.  I don't know when or if they dropped that mandate, but I know their cases are starting to build up again. 

It's terrible here in California.  Santa Clara County, where I live,  had 409 new cases just yesterday alone!  This brings the total in our county to 6,951 since the beginning.  Nothing, compared to Los Angeles County, with 143,010 cases so far.  It looks very grim for us in this state . . . I don't see an end in sight.     

angelface555

It's reported by multiple news and also medical sites that due to the number of deaths due to COVID-19, in Arizona and Texas, that they've brought in refrigerated trucks due to morgues bring full. On Instagram, a person posted that all of that information was false, as well as death counts. They went on to say that all of the death counts and the number of cases nationwide were falsified to make our president look bad. The opposition and number of people believing this is one of the why we're in the position we're in! 

The below photo is from Maryland;

Protest.jpg

angelface555

#128
I'm not attempting to be political. There is a serious divide in our country, and the opposition to believing in news transcends politics. It is the same with anti-vaxxers and religious thought that doesn't believe in medical procedures. They ignore warnings that a second, stronger wave of the virus will come with the flu season.

I believe that going back to lockdown is the only way to get a handle on this disease and its many different mutations. We were doing better before we began re-opening the country. As it stands now, Americans are banned from Europe and Asia, South America and Canada. We've isolated this country from the world, and some Eastern states have also banned other states.

When do political jockeying end and common sense begin? The CDC, WHO, and multiple organizations and medical and scientific personnel have repeatedly told us what we need to do and why. They have shown us proof, and we either ignore it, ban it and disbelieve it, and scoff at that proof. We, as a nation, would rather believe in conspiracies. It's killing us.


angelface555

#129
"The San Diego woman who berated a Starbucks barista online last month after she refused to wear a mask inside is now saying she deserves over half the $100,000 raised for the employee, according to local news outlet KGTV.

Lenin Gutierrez, a Starbucks barista, refused to serve Amber Lynn Gilles last month because Gilles did not have a face covering on, despite California law requiring people wear masks in public.

Gilles went on to shame Gutierrez on social media, posting a photo of him on Facebook and writing, "Meet lenen [sic] from Starbucks who refused to serve me cause I'm not wearing a mask. Next time I will wait for cops and bring a medical exemption."

"An Ohio Army veteran died of the coronavirus just two months after he publicly condemned the use of face masks in an online social media post.

According to his obituary, Richard Rose III, of Port Clinton, died at home on July 4 of complications related to the coronavirus. He was 37.

The veteran, who served in the U.S. Army for nine years with two tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, was adamant about not wearing a face mask amid the pandemic, calling the precaution just part of the "hype" in an April 28 Facebook post.

"Let me make this clear. I'm not buying a f—king mask," Rose wrote. "I've made it this far by not buying into that damn hype."


RAMMEL

Some people just don't like to follow the law/rules/suggestions. Vaccinations / immunizations ----- They're for the others.  Then when they get sick they look for someone to blame.
It's the WINDMILLS

          THIMK

angelface555

Per CNN

"Day after day, the US is topping itself in coronavirus cases and deaths. Thursday brought 77,225 new cases, eclipsing Tuesday's single-day nationwide case record. At least 943 people were also reported dead. Florida alone reported 156 new coronavirus-related deaths, the most yet in a 24-hour period. Hospitalizations are also on the rise: Miami's mayor says the city's hospitals have reached 95% capacity. In Texas and Arizona, morgues are filling up in the hardest-hit areas and officials are bringing in coolers and refrigerated trailers to store bodies. Yes, it's bleak, and the international community is taking notice. Mark Lowcock, The United Nations' top official in charge of humanitarian aid warned that the failure of wealthy nations to contain and react to the pandemic could allow the virus to ravage less developed nations and exacerbate the effects of the global health crisis for tens of millions of people. Currently, more than 13.8 million people have contracted the virus worldwide, resulting in at least 590,000 deaths."




FlaJean

My oldest daughter who lives in B.C. Canada, had her covid-19 test today.  The doctor said her lungs were clear, temp. normal and she should receive results in two days.  I believe they are trying to get everyone tested there.


Yesterday was the last day I've been able to get the daily info on our county.  It looks like our Gov. is trying to cover up the info for the public.  Lord help us is all I can say!

jane

Oh, FlaJean...what another nightmare!

Stay safe and healthy,

jane


angelface555

#134
Jean;

https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/

The second page has cases by zip code.

FlaJean

Thanks Patricia, I have that Dashboard including counties, but I follow one that gives more information and that is the one that is not working.

diglady

Now to hide the true info on CV-19. Hospital data related to Covid19 Is now collected by a private technology firm, Teletracking, rather than the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; administration says it will speed up reporting.

Collecting and reporting public health data has always been a core function of the CDC. Rather than strengthening the CDC public health data system to improve hospital reporting, the administration has handed data to an unproven, commercial entity.

The CEO of Teletracking, Michael Zamagias, also runs a real estate investment firm with several properties in Pittsburgh.
Has the firm or leadership of this firm given money to the Trump campaign? Was this a transparent selection process? Were other companies in competition for this job? What did they offer? Did we just get the "low bid" and will there be stringent oversight without scandal?

What a horrible thing to do. Crazy, sleazy, and crooked. Oh Boy. I will be political and say I am tired of this Hitler like President. He only cares about himself


FlaJean

Diglady, You are asking some very important questions.  I wonder if we will ever get any answers.  You have captured my sentiments exactly.  Thanks for speaking out.

angelface555

What can you expect from a man whose base is the lowest common denominator? Who took the country out of WHO and is feuding with the CDC? When he and his administration devalue our top scientists and doctors, such as Dr. Fauci?

angelface555

#139
85 infants under age one have tested positive for the virus in one Texas County.

"Since January, health authorities have identified more than 3.6 million Covid-19 cases throughout the United States. Nearly 140,000 people have died, according to Johns Hopkins University.

In Texas' Nueces County, where Corpus Christi is located, the number of new coronavirus cases skyrocketed in July after a flattening trend. The virus has infected dozens of babies and local officials are urging people to wear masks and practice social distancing.

"We currently have 85 babies under the age of one year in Nueces County that have all tested positive for Covid-19," said Annette Rodriguez, director of public health for Corpus Christi Nueces County."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/85-infants-under-age-1-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-in-one-texas-county/ar-BB16TBgX?ocid=hponeservicefeed

"You can see the trend line is relatively flat until July, and this is where we have had that huge spike in cases, and this is why it's turned into a major problem for Nueces County," he said.

Corpus Christi has about 8,100 coronavirus cases and 82 deaths linked to the virus, local officials said. Other Texas counties such as Cameron and Hidalgo are so dire, health officials are stocking up on refrigerated trucks to store bodies as morgues fill up."


Marilyne

I got a phone call from my older daughter today.  Her best friend in the apartment complex where she lives, was taken to the hospital in an ambulance yesterday, tested positive, and is now in ICU, on a ventilator.  She is 65 years old, and was in reasonably good health.  Her son came to the apartment today to get her dog and cat, and Shelley was able to talk to him on the phone.  He will be her only contact for information, but he lives in a different city, so it will be hard for Shelley to get any updates.  Of course the hospital doesn't give out any personal information about patients.

Diglady - I also agree with you, 100 percent!  Nothing that man does or says, makes any sense anymore.  I fear for the future of our country, in so many ways.   

angelface555

Marilyne, that is sad and I feel for your daughter. I don't personally, as far as I know, know of anyone close to me that's had the virus. But we are in total lockdown with cases surging here due to visitors and fisheries employees traveling through here on their way home. Or at least that is what we're told. People still aren't wearing masks even though it's supposedly a strict rule. Since reopening in July, this state has gone from a total of cases in the three hundred to yesterday's total of 1,539.

angelface555

Everyone infected with COVID-19 has one thing in common;

"With the coronavirus pandemic impacting all of our lives, average people have had to learn much more about epidemiology than they thought they would ever have to know. Understanding how the coronavirus spreads is vitally important, we all have to make safe choices based on that information. But it is challenging to keep up with these concepts, especially as experts themselves are still learning. Recently, Anthony Fauci, MD, director of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), cleared up one persistent point of confusion: what everyone infected with COVID has in common, regardless of whether they're symptomatic or not.

In a live-streamed Facebook Q&A on July 16, CEO Mark Zuckerberg relayed to Fauci that many users were asking in the comments of the video, "If someone isn't showing symptoms, then how is it that they could be contagious?"

"If you look at how you transmit from one person to another, the virus resides in the nasal pharynx and the back of the throat, so that's the reason why when you speak or cough or sing, the virus in droplets comes out," the doctor explained.

Whether or not your infection is causing symptoms of any kind doesn't matter—your respiratory droplets are still infected. And everyone releases a certain amount of droplets when they do the things Fauci listed (plus sneeze, yell, etc.).


"What we have found is that when you measure the level of virus in the nasal pharynx of asymptomatic people compared to people who are symptomatic, there doesn't seem to be any difference," Fauci continued. "Which means there's as much virus in the nose of a person who's asymptomatic as there is in a symptomatic person. Which means it is very, very likely, when that person talks or sneezes or whatever, that enough virus will come out to infect someone else. So there is not a lot of difference in virus load, even though people can be very different with regard to their symptoms."

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) data supports the notion that asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic carriers can and do spread coronavirus. One of the CDC's most recent models estimates that 50 percent of COVID transmission occurs before the onset of symptoms.

That's a difficult thing to wrap one's head around, that you could feel completely fine and normal but still be as dangerous to others as a person with a severe case of COVID. But that's one of the reasons that the virus has been able to tear through the country so quickly. So continue to don your mask any time you leave your home and keep up with your social distancing. Whether you know it or not, you could be carrying the same amount of the virus as a hospitalized COVID patient. And for more from the NIAID director, Dr. Fauci Says These Places Across the U.S. Need to Shut Down ASAP.

https://tinyurl.com/y3b4uthz

RAMMEL

Quote from: angelface555 on July 18, 2020, 03:28:02 PMWhat can you expect from a man whose base is the lowest common denominator? Who took the country out of WHO and is feuding with the CDC? When he and his administration devalue our top scientists and doctors, such as Dr. Fauci?
Are you talking about Obama & Joe?   Don't forget who called the Boston Police Stupid.   I thought we were not making this a POLITICS Discussion.
It's the WINDMILLS

          THIMK

jane

I'm afraid to look and see our local numbers.  People are not wearing masks, and I heard one large man, say, as he walked into Farm Fleet ahead of my niece and me (both of us masked), "IF they want us to wear masks, they should provide them."   I'm usually not a violent person, but I really wanted to punch his fat belly and say, THINK ABOUT OTHERS!  But, I didn't.   :crazy2:

diglady

Rammel: Unfortunately, it has been made into a political issue by an idiot who doesn't know right from wrong. The in-house crook!

RAMMEL

"I really wanted to punch his fat belly and say, THINK ABOUT OTHERS!"

Fighting is the answer.  Breaking store windows, burning things, stealing, lots of free stuff, will make everything OK for all the "others". Should be interesting when all the Police Departments shut down or slow down.
It's the WINDMILLS

          THIMK

angelface555

#147
Rick, we could argue back and forth about this but instead, let's not.

Yesterday Alaska stood at 1,539. Twentyfour hours later, 1,795. an increase of  1,429 on July first's number of 363. So much for reopening...
Daily Case Count Update


CASE COUNT SUMMARY, Saturday, July 18, 2020

DHSS today announced 78 new people with COVID-19 and one new death in Alaska. 62 are residents in 14 communities: Anchorage (31), Fairbanks (9), Soldotna (4), Wasilla (4), Juneau (2), Palmer (2), Seward (2), Valdez-Cordova Census Area (2) and one each in Chugiak, Eagle River, Ketchikan, Kenai Peninsula Borough North, Kenai Peninsula Borough South and Utqiaġvik. The total number of Alaska cases is 1,795.

jane



What scares me, too, are  the medical docs who say this fall and winter will probably be worse than now with the influenza mixed
in with Covid. 



FlaJean

We are almost up to 1800 in our county now.

Patricia, I'm glad you printed out that information.  I had not heard that talk between Zuckerberg and Fauci.