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Amy · November 09, 2021, 09:43:07 AM

Jane's

operation was long and went well. Information is that they did get everything.
She is in ICU for now. She DOES NOT HAVE THROAT CANCER. One should get the story straight before posting misinformation.

Marilyne · November 09, 2021, 07:15:23 PM

Mary Page - Thinking about you this evening, and wishing you a successful heart valve "procedure" tomorrow! We'll be looking forward to hearing from you, as soon as you are home again, and feel like writing - or maybe Chip can post here to let us know how you are progressing?

RAMMEL · November 09, 2021, 07:34:17 PM

Good luck to Mary Page. My your recovery be quick and easy.

MaryPage · November 09, 2021, 10:38:12 PM

Thank you ever so very much. Good Wishes from others makes unpleasant hours speed by so much swifter, I swear.

I've been packing all day, which sounds as though I'm saying the bags are piling up, but that would not be the case. I am taking one Mary Poppins carpetbag type valise, without, alas, the endless room within. I have one New Yorker tote bag for my book and paperwork regarding this hospitalization and a few other pass-the-time with articles. And then there is my purse, of course. The daughters are having a hard time giving over to Chip taking me and staying with me and texting/emailing/telephoning the rest of them. Actually, I would hate the noise and sense of crowd if all my children, or even half of them, could be at the hospital. I really want this Pandemic over yesterday, but also truly appreciate the one visitor per patient rule. At least Chip is allowed in from our arrival, as every patient is allowed to arrive with one person who is allowed to stay. Other than that, he would be confined to the 2:00 P.M. to 6:00 P.M. allowed one visitor at a time.

Chip and Christopher are the best drivers of the bunch; so I will not cringe too much over the Interstate portion of the ride there. Those of you who know Washington, D.C. will know that aside from it being a crowded, busy city, D.C. is laid out in a fairly simple pattern that is pretty easy to catch on to.

So Chip will hold on to my "stuff," and be the go to family member for the doctors to report to. He will keep the rest up to snuff.

We will rise at 4:00 and pull out of our parking lot at 5:00. Absent any accidents or slow downs, we'll get there just before six. From there, it is a mystery to me what will occur. Will I find myself in C.C.U. after the deed is done? Toss up. Hoping to be assigned directly to my room and have Chip leave my luggage with me and go home. Also hoping the 3 to 5 days will turn out to be no more than 3, and maybe less. I do not own a cell phone, and am not taking my 1Pad, so it may be a while before you hear from me. I am not really in to showing Chip how to navigate Seniors & Friends for me.

All will be well, and I am told I will feel the difference right away. Hooray for Modern Medicine!

Good Night and Sweet Dreams.

Sandy · November 10, 2021, 12:32:13 AM

Bye MOM !! Good luck MOM!

I miss you already .

Vanilla-Jackie · November 10, 2021, 01:21:26 AM

Mary Page..my Thoughts and Prayers remain with you as you prepare for your procedure, yes even from across the pond, here in UK, prayers travel...

Vanilla-Jackie · November 10, 2021, 04:58:15 AM

10.am ( UK ) another 40 minutes i will be making my way to Wednesday morning church, we have two churches i prefer the other one but, a small service mid-week is not to be missed..I am waiting for a 10.am home appointment from an Occupational Therapist as to my needs of a conservatory ramp for my mobility scooter..says she will only be here for 15 minutes, so i should be able to still make church..

FlaJean · November 10, 2021, 04:16:04 PM

MaryPage, sending best wishes that all goes well. Looking forward to hearing a good report.

Vanilla-Jackie · November 11, 2021, 03:51:48 AM

Soon being car collected for my morning church games, bible reading circle, prayers - chat and cup of tea..followed by our church lunch..This will get me out for a welcome few hours amongst good company...

Vanilla-Jackie · November 12, 2021, 05:27:05 AM

Nothing on my today agenda apart from our village churches community nurse home visit in an hour or so,
she keeps a welcome check on me over my deterioting multiple sclerosis and dealing with the loss of my hubby finding him dead in his armchair, finding it hard dealing with both of these..She has become a good friend and a Godsend...same as my church...such a wonderful caring community..i am truly blessed to be living here..So a lazy day after yesterdays three village church socials one after the other..and at two different churches..and i enjoyed all three...

FlaJean · November 12, 2021, 12:26:25 PM

We had a nice soothing rain yesterday. The grass looks so pretty and green. The temperature will be a nice 75° this afternoon and the sun is shining.

It's so quiet here this morning. Thinking about going. To Lowe's or Home Depot and see if we can find some violas or pansies for my two pots out front. They will last all winter and are so pretty.

Marilyne, how's the weather out your way? I know it will soon be fire season?

Jackie, it is so nice to hear about your visits.

For those of you who are familiar with the author Tony Hillerman, his daughter recently posted that a biography is now published of his life. She recently finished a new book, continuing on with the stories of Lt. Leaphorn and Jim Chee and the Navajo Nation.

Hope all of you are doing well and hope we soon hear from MaryPage. Thinking also of Phillis.

Marilyne · November 12, 2021, 12:56:26 PM

Another weekend here already! They come around so quickly now, don't they? Only one more to go before Thanksgiving week.

Jackie - So good to hear that you're keeping busy, and that you have a compatible group of friends at your church. Glad there is a community nurse connected to your church, who looks in on you, and has also become a friend.

Jean - I've read a number of books by both Tony Hillerman, and his daughter. I'm sure the biography on his life will be very interesting, as to how he happened to begin writing about the Navajo Nation, and stayed with it for so long. He may have written other novels, but I don't know about them?
Per usual, this time of year, our daytime temperatures are about the same as yours! It's been in the low 70's for a number of days now, and supposed to continue on for a few weeks. Thanksgiving is almost always warm and sunny here. We did have some rain toward the end of October, and again last week - but not enough to put a dent in our worsening drought conditions.

I hope all is well with everyone who looks into B&T? Also hoping we hear from Mary Page, soon. She indicated that neither she nor Chip, would be contacting us in Seniors and Friends, but maybe one of her daughters will update us before long?

CallieOK · November 12, 2021, 03:04:13 PM

Good Afternoon,

Amy, thank you for the info about Janie. Prayers continue for her recovery.

Hello, Carol and Jenny. Nice to see our Colorado friends here again.

This has been a busy week. #1 son came over and helped replace the batteries in all of the solar lights along the flower bed borders. The automatic light in the garage had been out for quite a while and he discovered it was just loose - didn't need replacing.
I also managed to reserve an appointment on line to get my driver's license renewed that will have the Real ID. Didn't plan on getting the Real ID because I have a valid passport and didn't think I'd be flying or going into a federal building. However, the tag agency said I had to have an appointment for anything regarding a license. So, since I needed to renew it anyway - I thought "Why not?"

I've also read the Tony Hillerman books. Jean, did his daughter mention the title? I'd like to check and see if it's available in a e-book from the library.

Dryer is "yoo-hooing" and there are things in this load that need to be hung up.

Off I go.....

FlaJean · November 13, 2021, 06:10:00 PM

Callie, the book is titled "Tony Hillerman, A Life" by James McGrath Morris. I get Amazon gifts occasionally and I usually buy Kindle books that I like. I've bought all six of Anne Hillerman's continuation books. She writes beautifully. She has a nice Facebook page.

Vanilla-Jackie · November 14, 2021, 04:57:46 AM

Being church car collected soon, they take good care of me...

MaryPage · November 14, 2021, 01:13:27 PM

Sandy Dapph, what a Wonderful note & sentiment! You make my heart swell up!

And thank you Jackie, Jean, Marilyne and Rammel.

I haven't read any Hillerman recently, but did read some years ago. I no longer go to the library, so if I want to read a book, I order it from Barnes & Nobel or Thriftbooks or somewhere else. Then I have no return dates to worry about and can pick out a book to read when I wish to. Unfortunately, I have over a thousand unread books stacked in my many bookcases, Fortunately, I have at least a thousand unread books on hand to pick up and read. My kids pass books on to me, and I to them. The whole family knows Barnes & Noble giftcards are my favorite gift.

Jane Austen remains my favorite author. Debi & I love to watch movies of her books. I buy them all, and now Emma, my favorite, has surpassed Pride & Prejudice in number! There are FIVE movies!

I am making splendid progress, but not perfect. Each day is better than the one before, though; and what more can you possibly wish for! Jackie, it makes my heart happy to hear how much you enjoy your church outings. I keep asking Santa for a magic wand, but never get one. If it turns out my name makes the list for those this year, I'LL wave it in your direction and make you all well.

Hi, Callie! Good to see you.

And with that, I am off back to bed. Happy dreams, everybody!

FlaJean · November 14, 2021, 01:34:48 PM

MaryPage, It is so good to hear from you. May each day find good improvement.

Vanilla-Jackie · November 14, 2021, 01:36:19 PM

Mary Page...
...ah bless you...i will be wishing for you to open a present containing a " magic wand " this Christmas...

You are going in the right direction, making better progress than the day before...

MarsGal · November 14, 2021, 01:47:44 PM

Yea! MaryPage is back already. Glad to hear everything is going well.

Not much going on around here for the last few days, but I thought I would just drop in for a quick note anyway. I did manage to con myself into going to the grocery store for a few things, which even so was over $67 and not much to show for it.

I hope everyone is having a good weekend.

Marilyne · November 14, 2021, 03:00:00 PM

Mary Page - Good to see a message from you this morning, and to have you back with us! I hope you're already feeling much better than before your procedure, as your doctor promised you would?
One thousand books! Oh my, how I would love to visit both you, and your bookshelves! I'm also a big Jane Austen fan, and have read all of her books and seen most of the movies and TV productions, over the years. I like all of her books, but Pride and Prejudice, is probably my favorite. Colin Furth, is my favorite Mr. Darcy. I think he was in the 1995 movie? I get all the "Elizabeth's" mixed up at this point? I think Emma Thompson, was one, or played one of the characters? Anyway, It's a pleasure to watch any of the Austen movies when they play on TV. (Which is not very often)

CallieOK · November 14, 2021, 04:13:48 PM

Good Afternoon,

MaryPage, So GOOD to see you here and know that you are your "sassy self" after your procedure.

Jean and other Hillerman fans, there's a long article in today's OKC paper about "Tony Hillerman: A Life". I misread the post and thought his daughter had written it. Article straightened that out so I looked for James McGrath Morris in the library ebooks but only found his book "Pulitzer". Maybe this one will be added later.
Lots of e-books written by Tony Hillerman, though - some of which I've read. Will put others on my Wish List.

According to the article, which was based on the author's interview with the reporter who wrote it, Tony Hillerman was born and "spent his formative years in the hamlet of Sacred Heart,Oklahoma(underlining mine)growing up and attending Catholic school with children of the Potowatami tribe."

The author says "Hillerman's fascination with the Navajo culture began...when he was driving a truck of oil-driving equipment from Oklahoma to New Mexico and encountered a group of Navajos in ceremonial garb. They allowed him to attend an Enemy Way, a ceremony to cleanse two Marines returning from WW2 of the evil they had countered while fighting in the war."
'...(The Navajo) formed an integral backdrop of his books (which) he used to educate the world at large about the Navajos in a respectful manner, which was very different from anything they ever experienced before."

The author, who is from New Mexico, will be in OKC this week for events marking the book's release.

Re Jane Austen: I've enjoyed the movies and TV productions but have had a hard time "wading" through the books. Maybe I should try again.

FlaJean · November 14, 2021, 11:18:16 PM

My favorite Jane Austen is Persuasion and second is Pride and Prejudice. The digital copies are all free on Apple Books. The only Jane Austen book I don't like at all is Lady Susan.

Callie, Sounds like a really good biography.

Vanilla-Jackie · November 15, 2021, 07:56:42 AM

Man just left, i am one step closer to getting my conservatory mobility scooter ramp after we made agreement on what was the best option, still going to take a few weeks, well 5 or 6, from ordering to fitting but he is on the ordering of it straight away...he will also be the one fitting it...Who knows, i might even get it in time for Christmas...

MarsGal · November 15, 2021, 08:27:30 AM

I never heard of Lady Susan, or at least don't remember running across it. The synopsis I read says it is an early work but not published until after her death. While I have seen movie productions of her works except for that and Sandition, The only ones that I recall reading are Pride and Prejudice and Northanger Abbey. I don't think I finished the latter.

Actually, for me, Charlotte Bronte's Jane Eyre is the best.

Mention of Tony Hillerman reminds me that some time ago I wanted to try his books, but then forgot about it. I do remember reading long ago one in the same vein, title and author now forgotten. And then there was a TV movie I saw many years back in which Lou Diamond Philips starred. It may have been The Dark Wind, but who knows. I thought Philips was the FBI agent in the one I saw.

Speaking of Philips, has anyone read any of his novels yet? I haven't.

Almost missed your post Jackie. Great to hear progress,if slow, on your scooter ramp.

Vanilla-Jackie · November 15, 2021, 08:30:14 AM

MarsGal...

MaryPage · November 15, 2021, 10:25:54 AM

The Lady Susan thing was one of those unfinished manuscripts things that show up centuries later and someone finishes and they publish and everyone expects to make a lot of money. I do not approve, but I did try it and disliked it. Bah Humbug!

As far as I'm concerned, Jane Austen wrote AND PUBLISHED six (6) romance novels that are better written than the men's up to and including her time. They also have the allure of giving us the most accurate sense of how people of education and breeding spoke and thought and lived their lives at that time. I get emotionally upset at reading, for instance, books about World War II: my war, my time; and find the characters mouthing words and phrases that we never used and that became common much, much later. They get it wrong, over and over and over again. Even the mind sets of the times. So Jane Austen is clearly perfection in that department for the times in which she wrote. Emma is my favorite, but Yes! I adore Persuasion, also. And Northanger Abbey is the one I am not fond of. I have read each book several times and own every movie. I only have two movies of Northanger Abbey, and I do believe that is all there have been. I mean to check on that as I get stronger.

Of course, once upon a time all of my movies of her books were on VHS tapes, and then my player broke and could not be fixed and they weren't making them anymore, so I had to go to DVDs and toss all those tapes; an expensive of the times. If I could have actually BEEN one of Jane Austen's heroines, I would choose Emma. Her Mr. Knightly was the finest of all the suitors. He had adored her since she was Born, literally. Darcy had been nasty about Elizabeth and I could never forgive him. Yes, I would LIKE to have been Emma, but the one that was/is most me is Fanny in Mansfield Park. Oh well.

MaryPage · November 15, 2021, 11:36:31 AM

As for Jane herself. I have always been certain in myself that she was Elinor in Sense & Sensibility. Many have chosen others, but then, this makes perfect sense, as authors actually use at least one character in every novel to give voice to things they wish to say. But if you read about Jane's real life, I think you cannot fail to see Jane was Elinor, and I feel certain she knew this. Sense & Sensibility is not, of course, precisely her story, at all, at all; but with tweaks here and there to camouflage the truth, while at the same time making it more of what Jane would have wished it to be (Austen never married and she died young.), I feel certain Jane finally put her own soul and persona into Elinor, who lived Jane's life at the beginning.

FlaJean · November 15, 2021, 12:03:44 PM

I haven't read Sense and Sensibility in a long time and plan to read it again now.

Marilyne · November 15, 2021, 12:54:18 PM

Good morning to everyone who posts here.
Now I'm consumed with Jane Austen, trying to sort out the different characters in her novels that I've read over time. It has been years, and unfortunately, I don't own any of her books anymore, so I do plan to make a library run, ASAP. A couple of years ago, I gave away most of my books, to my youngest daughter, my dil, and one granddaughter. All three love and appreciate books and reading, so I decided it was time to start clearing out my bookshelves. Sometimes I regret not being able to put my hands on a particular book - but I still have lots of my favorites.

I may take another look at the Hillerman novels, also. I do like to reread books that I have enjoyed reading in the past. I always get a lot more out of them, on the second or third reading.

MarsGal - You mentioned Lou Diamond Phillips. The role I think was his best, was in the long running TV series - "Longmire". He was the secondary star, and played a Native American, who was raised on a reservation, in Wyoming, befriends Longmire at an early age, and they become lifelong friends. Now that I'm thinking about it, that was a very good series, and I might look for it and watch it again. Netflix, I think?

Time to get all masked up, and venture into my local Safeway. The shelves were pretty bare when I was there last week, so hope things are looking better today? The clerk at the check-out, told me that the back storage area of the store was filled with lots of the missing items, but they had nobody to stock the shelves! Apparently lots of workers have quit, because of the low pay, and no benefits. You can't live here in Silicon Valley, on minimum wage! One bedroom apartments start at $2,000 per month now.

MarsGal · November 15, 2021, 04:48:07 PM

Ah, nuts! I just got some bad news. Jim is in the hospital and has been since Thursday. He didn't want anyone to know so Sue has been keeping quiet about it all this time. It seems that while the valve problem was fixed, the right side of his heart has decided it can't keep up with the left side now that it is fixed. Something about not being able to squeeze enough. Also, he is now in stage four kidney disease. They are trying all kinds of different drugs on him to see what will work. So far, he is looking better and is more alert, but he still is having trouble breathing. They plan on starting him on dialysis soon on top of of most likely having to be on oxygen now. He still does not want Sue to let anybody know, not even his son and best friend. The only ones that know are the bunch that were to gather for Thanksgiving. That has been cancelled. All have been notified.

All you Jane Austen fans might like Jane Austen's Brothers by J. H. Hubback. It is an old book that I found in Project Gutenberg. It is on the web to read at www.mollands.net/etexts/jasb/jasb1.html and at Internet Archive https://archive.org/details/janeaustenssailo00hubbrich/page/n13/mode/2up Amazon also has it in several different covers and a Kindle edition. Barnes and Noble has it in one paperback. Interesting reading about the brothers and their influence in Jane's choice of characters for her books.

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