Hi Bubble,  it sounds like Mary Page's  daughter will help her forward the picture. It will probably come to you or Patricia. 

Thanks Marilyne.
I  edited your previous post to remove the emails - for security reasons: emails are visible to members only in our profile.

Good idea!  I don't think very many posters realize that ANYONE IN THE WORLD CAN READ POSTS!  YOU ONLY HAVE TO REGISTER SO YOU CAN POST!  (Yes, I "shouted" by using all capital letters!!!!!)

That's the reason I do not use my last name nor exactly where I live.

Thanks Bubble. I thought our Member list at the top of every page,  was public,  and available to anyone looking in?   Thanks for letting me know. 

MaryPage, how nice of your daughter Becky to fly in to take care of you. You both must be enjoying looking back through the photo albums.  Hope you are feeling better soon.

Speaking of photo albums, I have so many I have put together over the 54 yrs. my hubby and I have been married.  Then of course digital picture taking came along so I saved my pics from the camera to CDs, and now I am using USB drives. I post a lot on Facebook so the kids and grandkids can see them and also save whichever ones they want.  Years ago, I bought a 1-ton gigabyte external drive to transfer all my digital pictures to for safe keeping and one day I went to pull the pics up and lo and behold they would not upload.  Same thing just happened recently with a USB stick I placed pictures on. What a huge disappointment it was when I got the message it could not load. I hope to take it into a computer shop and see if they can retrieve my pictures.  Nothing beats a good ole physical photo album.

Bubble, thank you for shouting out the fact everything we post here can be seen by anyone who registers here.

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Wishing you ALL a wonderful day.

Good Morning to everyone.    Seems like a long time since I posted, but just feels that way, because I've been sidetracked with a reaction to my second shingles vaccination.   Today is Day #3, and I think I'm finally getting back to normal. In spite of these few days of misery, from the shot,  it's far far better than a case of shingles at our age!  I put off getting the vaccine,  thinking I was protected because I had a mild case of shingles about 20 years ago.  Not so!  You have to get the vaccine, or you're vulnerable.

Ciaobella, I can relate to your comments on the old photo albums from the past, as compared to the new digital pictures of today.  My mother put together old black and white "snapshot" albums, starting when she was a  teen in the 1920's.  She went to work right after high school, and the first  thing she purchased for herself, was a good camera.  It took beautiful pictures, and I still have all the  albums that the put together starting in the 1930's, and up until she passed away in 1975.  I tried to follow her example, but I was never as well organized, and unfortunately I have boxes of photos that were never named or dated.

Our older daughter is active in  Ancestry.com,  so she is interested in the past, and the people,  and is doing a good job of following her grandmother's example.   

Marilyne, I also had signed up for ancestry.com a number of years ago and received a shock. The Irish ancestry my entire maternal side of the family held dear and close to their hearts was only eleven percent!

The family is mainly Northern European which includes Scotland, Belgian, Luxembourg, Northern Germany and the Netherlands. Out of that, we're basically from the Netherlands and then Belgian. The minute Irish portion is probably lessened in later generations. I'm grateful she didn't live to hear about that.

My paternal side is mainly Scottish and Welsh, with a little English, twelve percent, thrown in. The Scottish clan was a Black Watch clan, which at the time were law enforcers. I have a kilt from a relative, sent when I was five. It's black with green and a thin green line at the base. If I'm remembering correctly.

I still get emails from them about further refining my percentages and more traits, and other teasers to bring me back in. So, far, I've held out, but one of my cousins is also in Ancestry, his mother was my mother's sister.

My maternal cousin, Ann, had sent a CD of family photos going back to derrugotypes. Times when whole families lined up looking very solemn and a touch angry for prosperity. She also matched up many grave photos and this CD included those past generations from pre-civil war to my generation. Unfortunately, no one has gone further. But, I'm beyond grateful that she compiled, produced, and mailed them out to those who wished a copy.

I'm also glad you mentioned your second shingles shot, but sorry for your bad reaction; as I had forgotten that my second one is due this month. Not only that, but I had my shingles in the same arm as my RSV shot, and while I had a reaction with some bruising and area inflammation, it went away in about eight days.

Patricia,   similar situation here with the Irish ancestry.   My father celebrated his Irish heritage, but my DNA share of the Irish was only about 5%.   My mother thought she was mostly of Dutch descent, but my share of The Netherlands was also low.    My DNA showed over 75% England and Northwestern Europe, which included Scotland at the time I did the test.   Ancestry has changed and updated everything,  so I'm sure lots of those numbers look different now?  I haven't looked in a long time, but will now figure out how to get back in so I have the latest information.   That's great that you get updates  from your cousin about the constantly evolving changes.   Too bad we'll never know the DNA of our parents. 

I got my first Shingles  vaccination in January, so it's been three full months.   We have a six month window to get our second shot.  I don't know what the odds are in getting an adverse reaction?    My husband and son, got no reaction whatsoever.  Our two daughters and daughter-in-law, all got definite reactions.

Marilyne, our parents' DNA is shown and ours is a deviative of theirs. They even showed what parts of my DNA came from what parent. My second shot is due this month, and I'll probably do that on the sixth.

I had four shots on March first, so, it's time to get the second one.

Hoping to see a bigger presence in S&F today?   Seems like the messages are few and far between over the entire message board this past week?   Maybe some of you can join Patricia and me, in talking about t.  hings we learned about our families, after joining Ancestry.   Lots of interesting facts and surprises when you join!  I heard from relatives that I never knew existed!  DNA is an amazing science!

Patricia,  what I meant to say yesterday about my parents,  is that it would be wonderful to be able to click on their Ancestry profiles. My brother too.
If you had four shots on March 1, and didn't have a  reaction, then I doubt very much if you will get one this time. That was brave of you to get so many at once.   

I did have a reaction for eight weeks. A raised bump, warm to the touch, and bruising on my arm.

I did all the shots at once because I had been thinking and debating for some time and finally decided to simply go for it.

My Ancestry DNA showed the relatives who more closely matched my own. One was a cousin, one was his niece, and one was a young man given up for adoption at birth. I also learn that my 11% Irish disappeared because of more advances and more familial DNA from those regions. Yet, some of my family still retained some Irish DNA, although in diminished amounts. This has been huge in a family celebrating Irish roots and backgrounds.

Bad week - feeling punky till last night - started Ancestry a couple of years ago and then got wrapped up in moving but still belong - that is an annual fee I've not gotten full benefit from -

Still have boxes of photos to go through - pretty much know where my great grandparents came from - one part of Germany or the other mostly during the early 1800s except for my Mother's Dad's parents who came from Ireland during the famine. Did learn my Father's mother's (my grandmother) father married twice and I did not know that.

Not fun being German during WWII especially the early years - lots of memories that I'd just as soon forget including the FBI taking my Uncle for internment and my father had to get him out - he had served in the Navy during WWI, born here however it was his father that came from Germany - after that my father although 2nd generation registered to be on the safe side - I remember that day when the decision was made - lots of fear and lots of silence but then not sure if that was easy compared to other incidents.

Ok need to turn on the game - the Astros have not been playing as well so far this year - lots of new players and I still have not got them all straight but today a young pitcher Hunter Brown will be on the mound and he is wonderful to watch...

Barb,  sorry you had a bad week . . .   along with me and a few others here in S&F.   Spring is my favorite season, but the  changeable weather and the pollen blowing around, is hard on us old folks.  Every once in a while, a perfectly beautiful day appears, but is usually followed by one that's bleak and windy. 

That's a shocking and sad story,  about the way your family was treated during the  WWII years!   So much fear and suspicion at that time.  I hope you or your siblings weren't  treated poorly at school?   Here in California, it was the Japanese families who were under suspicion and surveillance, until they were all rounded up and  sent away to the internment camps for the duration.  I was about eight years old, but remember well, when one of my school friends  was suddenly gone!  My mother tried to explain it to me, but it was a hard concept for a child to understand. 

Patricia,  my closest DNA matches, were mostly people I had never heard of. (Not counting my adult children and granddaughter.)  The two with the highest DNA matches were from my Dad's side.    I was contacted by quite a few people from both sides.  Now that I'm thinking about it again,   I'm going to look in later tonight, and maybe send a message to a couple of them that I haven 't heard from in a long time.  One of them had a most interesting background story.

I'm still dragging around here, with no energy or appetite, but it's only been three days since my shot so I guess it's to be expected?  Soon it will be Fall,  we'll have to decide on another round of Covid vaccine, and all the others.  It looks like a never-ending cycle?

I have never, nor have any of my family on either side, so far as I know or can figure out, sent anywhere else then to Bibles &/or written out by hand or, recently printed out by computer for family dates & names.  Mainly, we are Virginians, & we made up the FFV basically.  Some of you may join me in that.  All of that is starting with my father's side.  My mother's kin were up-state New York & Canada, including indiginous from the Mohawk tribe of the Iroquois Nation.  I am mighty proud of being A VIRGINIAN, & of all the rest of them, as well & all. /color]]{\b}

It's so good to see so many of you posting and sharing your Ancestry information. My kids gave me an Ancestry membership and DNA kit for my birthday about 10 years ago and I hesitated to send in my sample but finally did so a couple years later.  My results came back, and I was shocked that I had zero percent Indigenous/Indian and was told by my mother that both my maternal grandfather and grandmother were Indian.  When I talked to my aunt, since my mother has passed on, she confirmed that her grandson had also done his DNA with Ancestry and the results surprised her it showed zero percent. 

My father was killed in a train accident when I was 3 yrs. old and his father was killed years before that, so there has always been the question of where in Italy was my paternal grandfather born, when did he come to the United States and also when did he meet and marry my Italian grandmother.  The story was they married in Italy and came over before their first child was born which turned out to be a passed down family myth.  A couple of years ago my younger sister had found a lady on Facebook's genealogy site who offered to help her with finding our answers to these questions and also what our true biological surname is since there have been many spellings throughout the years.  My sister contacted me and told me this lady was willing to help us and asked if I would work with her since I had been researching and coming to a dead end.  Long story short my sister passed away before we found the answers, but this lady Valerie, who I call my research angel was able to locate the two regions in Italy my paternal grandparents were from Abruzzo and Larino, Italy and she was also able to finally find the correct spelling of our last name. I grew up as did all my Italian family named Patterfritz which does not seem the least bit Italian. We finally know the correct spelling is Pettofrezza. When Valerie enlisted help through her international research people, they informed her there was NEVER a name Patterfritz ever recorded throughout Italy. After my grandparents migrated here separately on different ships in 1906, Carmela was 7 yrs. old and Giuseppantonio 16 yrs. old they migrated to Quebec, Montreal, Canada. They somehow met in Quebec, Montreal, Canada and married since we were able to find a church record of their marriage which took place in 1915. They migrated to the U.S. in 1922, and a civil marriage recorded in 1927. They had three children in Canada and moved to the U.S. around 1922 before my father was born in 1923. 

Valerie worked endlessly finding ship manifests, birth, marriage, divorce and other important records that gave positive proof of the towns they each were born in Italy, how many marriages and how many children each of them had before marrying each other.  I put together a printed packet of most of these and sent them to each of my siblings for a Christmas present last year.  They were so amazed to finally have this information. The best we have been able to deduce is it was when my grandfather was killed in Monroe, Michigan in 1933 that is when the name Patterfritz began being used.  I am still working on going back to my hometown of Monroe, Michigan and searching in their library and public files to get more definitive answers as to who legally changed the name at that time.  My grandmother could barely speak English and had little education, so another family member had to be involved in the name change. On the most updated Census for her after my grandfather's death it lists her as "alien" which leads me to believe she nor my grandfather ever became naturalized citizens of the United States, which if so, it would possibly give me duo citizenship. My DNA shows I am 50% Italian after adding all the regions included in my results.  I plan to print a packet for all my kids and grandkids so they will have this information.  As far as changing my surname to the correct spelling I will leave it as it is. We were also able to finally find the true surname of my grandmother Carmela D'Apice and go back a few generations on both grandparents. We found information no one had ever known, and I had to stop and wonder how my grandparents would feel about us uncovering some well-kept secrets.     

"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive" by Sir Walter Scott's poem "Marmion".

Ciaobella,   What an interesting story about how you uncovered the true name and origin of your Italian family.  You are fortunate that your sister found "Valerie", and that you've followed through with her, and found such important information.  Especially finding that your family name was not  Patterfritz, but instead was Pettofrezza.     I've read a number of stories on Ancestry and other websites, about how surnames were unintentionally changed when a family arrived at Ellis Island.  The American workers there, often had a difficult time understanding the new immigrants who didn't speak English, so they did the best they could.   So we can see why so many names were totally wrong, or badly misspelled.  In your case, however, it looks like your family name was changed on purpose, many years later.

Ancestry.com  is part of the  the LDS - Mormon Church, as I'm sure you know.   Family origins, names and birth and death dates are very important to the LDS/Mormon religion.  They have always  done and still do,  accurate family research.

Your family story makes me want to do further research on the part of my family that I know very little about - except for names.  I'm pretty confident in my knowledge of my Mother's side of the family, but I know very little about my father's side.  The names,  I can see on the different family trees that are shown, but I would like to know more about the individual people. Personal stories are fascinating to me.

While I know a lot about the maternal side of my family from Ancestry.com and mostly from third and fourth cousins, my paternal side is mostly unknown. It seems that many paternal relatives used 23&Me instead of Ancestry and now that 23&Me went bankrupt and is being sold, that information is lost.

I went into it primarily as a fact checking of oft repeated family stories, and met many unknown cousins, third and fourth degree and found out information I wasn't aware was still out there such as census records, my schools, my old addresses, marriages and my daughter's birth and death records. I also found out private family secrets that weren't so private, and probably not intended for me to know. So, it's a double-edged sword.

Marilyn, I was completely amazed when Valerie was able to send me links and pictures of the actual ship passenger manifest from where my grandfather left Napoli, Italy and came to the port in New York. He traveled back and forth a couple of times before migrating.  I too thought most of the misspelling of names was due to lack of communication when the immigrants came but according to Valerie, they came with documented papers that had their correct spelling. But it was common to Americanize foreign names such as my grandfather's birth name was Giuseppantonio but in the United States he was known as Joe/Joseph.  Another interesting fact Valerie taught me when researching ancestors is that the female always kept her surname, never use the female's married name when searching.  Valerie had spent years connecting with international departments searching for her paternal side and became an expert in this field.  She was able to get me baptismal documents which are huge leads to locations of births and parent's names. She worked as an editing/writer for Francis Ford Coppola the famous American filmmaker.  She and I became very close friends staying up til dawn on the phone talking she in California three hours behind me in Ohio. She was NOT giving up on finding my biological name and found this one of the most fascinating searches she ever helped anyone with.  We got so burned out once I had a ton of information to work with, we decided to take a break.  She is battling cancer now and I am hoping and praying she beats it. 

Patricia, yes, it's sad to hear about 23&Me.  I never used that research site, but my sister-in-law has, and I feel badly for all those who will lose their information.  I was very diligent in taking a screenshot of every picture, document, newspaper article, link and source and save it to my computer in the event something like this would happen with Ancestry. I also printed many of the important documents and keep them in a folder, along with my conversations from my chat/messages between Valerie and me so I have the info to look back on because we all know we can't rely on our memory.  lol Yes, it is a double-edge sword as you say, and Valerie lost contact will all her living family members once she shared her information she found in her research.  Her family chose not to believe her and said they never wanted to hear from her again, so she warned me that if and when I choose to share the secrets we uncovered with my family to be ready to be rejected.  Thankfully my family received it and had many questions wanting to know more. My one cousin tried to dispute much of the info because she had the love story between my grandfather and grandmother married in Italy and came together on the ship to live in the United States for a better life in her mind for all these years because her mother told her this.  I told her documents don't lie and our grandmother was only seven years old when she came with her mother to meet up with her father.  The two families did not know each other at the time.  It took her awhile, but she finally came around and thanked me for giving her this information. I have no regrets in my search and to finally know my true spelling of my surname is a gift I am thankful to have. 

Mary Page . . . good to see your post and about your family origins.  It looks like your ancestors settled mostly in the States along the East coast and some in Canada.  Interesting that you have a connection to the Mohawk tribe of the Iroquois Nation!  I also have a 4%  indiginous connection to a tribe in California. 
Hope to see you posting again soon!   

Ciaobella, the issue with 23&Me's bankruptcy is who buys the information and who does what with that information.

Change of subject - this is a great video that is down to earth and I found to be enlightening. Not just the 5 things that are simple things but if you cannot do them he does a good job of encouraging believing we can recapture these abilities...

Barb . . .that's a good video, and very inspirational.  Note that the age range is 70 plus.  Between age 70 and about 85, I could do them all, but accomplishing all five of them  at 90, is a challenge!  The trick is to never stop doing the physical things you were able to do at 70.  Is it too late, once you've given up?    I plan to try every one of the five things today, and see what's left of my strength and endurance?   

The only one I know I can accomplish is walking.   I still walk a lot, and especially enjoy walking outside, weather permitting, but I also enjoy walking inside of grocery stores or other businesses.   One thing that I recommend to seniors is to continue to drive, as long as you don't have vision problems.   It gives you a feeling of independence and self confidence  to not have to depend on someone else to do the driving.  (Of course I don't mean long distances or heavy traffic and congested freeways.)

Yes, and I liked the last bit he threw in about having a purpose - that getting up in the morning with a purpose appears to be the key to so much of the downside of aging - and yes, Marilyne I was doing pretty well till I was about 6 months past 90 and all of a sudden I could not carry the boxes of books that granted are heavy but I was doing well till then - I did work till I was 85 - not as much (Real Estate Broker) and about the age of 83 when showing a 2 story house I was not going up the stairs because I would be tired and needed to be able to answer questions and help the client through the process of considering if the house was right for them or not - As to getting up from the floor using only my body I'm not sure when the need to lean or hold on became a necessity but like you I was walking fine again till the last year and a half when arthritis in hip and now the knee in the other leg and sciatica make it difficult however, like you I now plan on adding an exercise routine and see if I can build back a little and the concept of a purpose has me thinking and reviewing - my options are reduced but then that is the adventure and challenge isn't it...