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Started by diglady, March 29, 2016, 03:27:58 PM

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patricia19

After the largest voter turnout since 1900, Trump isn't going away quietly.

Trump and his legal team are insisting they didn't lose but the election was stolen by a  Democratic "Deep State." They've filed legal injunctions in all the states where Biden won the count altho most courts say the lawsuits are baseless. He wants those states he lost to do a recount or do-over! During a national news conference with Trump stating the election and voting was a fraud, ABC, CBS, NBC, cut away saying the president was making known false statements. CNN and Fox showed it to the end with a screen runner saying there was no basis for those allegations.


Vanilla-Jackie

November 07, 2020, 02:27:07 PM #691 Last Edit: November 07, 2020, 03:04:39 PM by Vanilla-Jackie
We ( UK ) is getting the same information on our BBC news channel...I warmed to the footage of Biden and Obama hugging each other...their friendship and smiles on their faces is just priceless, just lovely to see, so genuine, and one can see that Obama was so thankful - relieved that he was the one who got voted in..His third attempt after 1988 and 2008, this time it has paid off...

" look after our planet, it is the only one we have "
             

Vanilla-Jackie

That golf course has been taking a bashing...

" look after our planet, it is the only one we have "
             

Vanilla-Jackie

November 10, 2020, 03:21:09 AM #693 Last Edit: November 10, 2020, 04:54:55 AM by Vanilla-Jackie
What a trouble maker...can you believe Trump is now having a go at Pfizer ( accusing ) for not having the courage in making their announcement of this vaccine before the elections, he still has to interfere...This man will end up with taking his own life if he carries on this way...he will make enemy's of so many people, and as for his debts and debtors...

" look after our planet, it is the only one we have "
             

Sandy


I am so tickled that Biden and Harris won !!!

I was so afraid that they wouldn't, ]
but they have...

Joy to the World !

Sing like no one's listening.
Love like you've never been hurt,
Dance like nobody's watching, and
Live like it's heaven on earth.

 :thinking:

patricia19

It's unfortunate that the hatred his followers have swallowed whole, and his last greedy grasp for power have taken this nation to the brink. He is still creating new lawsuits for each one failed and attempting to drive an ignorant base to arm themselves and protect his lies.

I don't understand this type of megalomania, and the consequences to this country won't end soon.

Vanilla-Jackie

November 11, 2020, 03:19:38 PM #696 Last Edit: November 12, 2020, 01:06:42 PM by Vanilla-Jackie
Sandy...
... treat this as an early and very welcomed Christmas present.. ;)

" look after our planet, it is the only one we have "
             

diglady

Sandy, I knew you would be pleased with the election turn out!

Can you believe that Trump was allowed near the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier? I wasn't only horrified I was mad as hell! He called dead Military suckers and losers then does "honors"? Give me a break.

Sandy

I an relieved but still
worried that he will do something to change
the outcome to favor himself.    As usual   ::)

Sing like no one's listening.
Love like you've never been hurt,
Dance like nobody's watching, and
Live like it's heaven on earth.

 :thinking:

patricia19

While his baseless lawsuits continue, and his infantile denial of Biden's access to offices and current briefings, continue, what worries me is his base's slavish belief in his claims. They openly parade about armed with automatic weapons and talk of stepping in when the so-called Democratic armed insurrection appears. Many Republicans, including my own state's Governor, are still supporting him and denying Biden's election win. They openly speak of fighting any attempt by Biden to govern now or later.

This negativity and open lies have divided the country, and I wonder how this will affect Biden's efforts to unite the country and bring back rationality.

Vanilla-Jackie

November 13, 2020, 05:22:38 AM #700 Last Edit: November 13, 2020, 06:23:41 AM by Vanilla-Jackie
Quoting: " The most secure election in American history " the verdict from Senior US election officials...How much more convincing do doubters need...No case to answer....Roll - on Bidens inauguration..

" look after our planet, it is the only one we have "
             

diglady

Many CEOs of BIG companies have met to insure Trump will not try anything drastic:

https://my.earthlink.net/channel/news/article/bus?guid=20201113/e961afd0-70a9-4ec5-a856-ff9e75872cf3

He is fairly quiet these days so he must be in deep depression.

Vanilla-Jackie

November 13, 2020, 11:26:43 AM #702 Last Edit: November 13, 2020, 12:15:39 PM by Vanilla-Jackie
Time for another round of gold maybe...

Yes depression, s***de thoughts, this is maybe the one time he has felt so out of control, he has been used to " one click of his fingers, " of everything going his way...

" look after our planet, it is the only one we have "
             

patricia19

Thank you Diglady for that last article, I've saved it to forward.

diglady

I am worried. So many marching in the various towns/cities for Trump. Fight broke out in DC with some injured. Trump has turned this country into a 3rd world nation. He believes and promotes lawlessness. He should stop this but he glories in it. Awful awful man.

patricia19

What I'm worried about is Mitch McConnell and other Republicans that have publicly sworn to stop and limit as much as possible, any attempts for President-elect Biden's to access needed transitioning information and access as well as later governing. I believe that extra money in the back pocket, greed, avarice, and pomposity mark their characters more than their oaths of office or thoughts of Americans do!

patricia19

November 15, 2020, 01:39:19 PM #706 Last Edit: November 15, 2020, 01:43:41 PM by patricia19
"It took President Trump 827 days to top 10,000 false and misleading claims in The Fact Checker's database, an average of 12 claims a day.

But on July 9, just 440 days later, the president crossed the 20,000 mark — an average of 23 claims a day over a 14-month period, which included the events leading up to Trump's impeachment trial, the worldwide pandemic that crashed the economy and the eruption of protests over the death of George Floyd in police custody.

The coronavirus pandemic has spawned a whole new genre of Trump's falsehoods. The category in just a few months has reached nearly 1,000 claims, more than his tax claims combined. Trump's false or misleading claims about the impeachment investigation — and the events surrounding it — contributed almost 1,200 entries to the database.

The notion that Trump would exceed 20,000 claims before he finished his term appeared ludicrous when The Fact Checker started this project during the president's first 100 days in office. In that time, Trump averaged fewer than five claims a day, which would have added up to about 7,000 claims in a four-year presidential term. But the tsunami of untruths just keeps looming larger and larger.

As of July 9, the tally in our database stands at 20,055 claims in 1,267 days.

Just as when Trump crossed the 10,000 threshold, an interview with Sean Hannity of Fox News helped Trump breach the 20,000 mark. Trump racked up 62 claims on July 9, about half of which came during the Hannity interview: Trump's statements cover a substantial range of his bogus attacks, conspiracy theories, boasts and inaccurate information:

— Former president Barack Obama "did not want" to give surplus military equipment to police. Obama scaled back the program but still allowed specialized firearms, manned and unmanned aircraft, explosives and riot gear.

— Trump has "tremendous support" in the African American community. No polling shows this.

— Trump "insisted" the National Guard be used in Minneapolis to quell disturbances and Seattle officials "knew" he was ready to act with force if the city did not shut down protests. Local officials say neither claim is true; they acted on their own.

— The United States has a "record" for coronavirus testing, and China has not tested as many people as the United States. The United States still lags several major countries in terms of tests per million people, the best metric for comparison. The United States has a higher per capita testing rate than China, but China in June said it had tested 90 million people — at the time, three times as many as the United States.

— Obama and former vice president Joe Biden "spied" on his campaign and "knew everything that was going on." Trump has made allegations of Obama spying since 2017, based on little or no evidence.

— The jury forewoman in the Roger Stone trial was "disgraceful." The judge in the case rejected claims of bias. Tomeka Hart's political leanings and activities were clearly known during the jury selection process, and not even Stone's legal team tried to strike her from the jury pool.

— Paul Manafort, Trump's former campaign manager, was placed in "solitary confinement," while Al Capone "was never in solitary confinement." Manafort was in a "private, self-contained living unit" that was larger than other units, which included a bathroom, shower, telephone and laptop access, according to court records. Capone was eventually sent to the infamous Alcatraz prison, where he was stabbed and got into fights and, according to some reports, ended up in solitary confinement as his brain deteriorated from untreated syphilis.

— "We're doing record numbers on the border." In 2020, no records have been set, and border apprehensions spiked sharply in June.

— "We've rebuilt the military, 2.5 trillion dollars." Trump frequently suggests this money is all for new equipment, but he's just adding together three years of budgets, none of which is a record.

So far during his presidency, Trump's most repeated claim — 360 times — is that the U.S. economy today is the best in history. He began making this claim in June 2018, and it quickly became one of his favorites. He's been forced to adapt for the tough economic times, and doing so has made it even more fantastic. Whereas he used to say it was the best economy in U.S. history, he now often recalls that he achieved "the best economy in the history of the world."

That's not true. The president once could brag about the state of the economy, but he ran into trouble when he made a play for the history books. By just about any important measure, the pre-coronavirus economy was not doing as well as it did under Presidents Dwight D. Eisenhower, Lyndon B. Johnson or Bill Clinton — or Ulysses S. Grant. Moreover, the economy was already beginning to hit the head winds caused by Trump's trade wars, with the manufacturing sector in an apparent recession.

Trump has repeated this "best economy" claim more than 100 times just since the coronavirus emerged in China and sent the economy into a tailspin, robbing Trump of what he had expected would be his top sales pitch for reelection.

Trump's second-most repeated claim — 261 times — is that his border wall is being built. Congress balked at funding the concrete barrier he envisioned, so the project evolved into the replacement of smaller, older barriers with steel bollard fencing. (Only three miles of the barrier is on land that previously did not have a barrier.) The Washington Post has reported that the bollard fencing is easily breached, with smugglers sawing through it, despite Trump's claims that it is impossible to get past. Nevertheless, the project has diverted billions in military and counternarcotics funding to become one of the largest infrastructure projects in U.S. history, seizing private land, cutting off wildlife corridors and disrupting Native American cultural sites.

Trump has falsely said 210 times that he passed the biggest tax cut in history. Even before his tax cut was crafted, he promised it would be the biggest in U.S. history — bigger than President Ronald Reagan's in 1981. Reagan's tax cut amounted to 2.9 percent of the gross domestic product, and none of the proposals under consideration came close to that level. Yet Trump persisted in this fiction even when the tax cut was eventually crafted to be the equivalent of 0.9 percent of GDP, making it the eighth-largest tax cut in 100 years. This continues to be an all-purpose applause line at the president's rallies.

Trump's penchant for repeating false claims is demonstrated by the fact that the Fact Checker database has recorded nearly 500 instances in which he has repeated a variation of the same claim at least three times.

The Fact Checker also tracks Three- or Four-Pinocchio claims that Trump has said at least 20 times, earning him a Bottomless Pinocchio. There are now 40 entries, with the most recent addition being his false claim that he has spent $2.5 trillion on new military equipment.

The award-winning database website, created by graphics reporter Leslie Shapiro, has an extremely fast search engine that will quickly locate suspect statements the president has made. We encourage readers to explore it in detail.

Note: The Fact Checker welcomes academic research of the Trump claims database. Recent examples include work done by Columbia University, Erasmus University of Rotterdam, University College London and the University of California at Santa Barbara. You can request our data files with an explanation of your research plans by contacting us at factchecker@washpost.com.

The Fact Checker is a verified signatory to the International Fact-Checking Network code of principles"



patricia19


diglady

Thank you  That was fun!!

diglady

In spite of the pandemic best Thanksgiving in 4 years! No Trump!! Yea

HAPPY THANKSGIVING  to all

diglady

I forget what state but because of the recount demanded by Trump more than 300+ were found for Biden!! Wonderful. He is now saying he will leave the White House if Biden is seated by electoral collage but he doubts that will happen as thee is more coming..

patricia19

November 28, 2020, 11:27:40 AM #711 Last Edit: November 28, 2020, 11:30:33 AM by patricia19
That would be either Alabama or possibly Georgia. Trump was not only defeated by the largest amount of votes in history; he also carried the most votes in many nominally Republican districts.

In some recounts, Biden has not only come out winning, but it was one of the closest watched and said by both Republicans and Democrats to be the safest and most comprehensive. Biden has been certified as the winner of the election.

In the thirty-seven lawsuits filed by Trump and Guliani so far, each and every suit has been dismissed out of hand for baseless allegations and NO PROOF shown.

patricia19

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diglady

Patricia, Thank you for the morning laugh!

diglady


patricia19

It's very much like his charity that was shut down. It turned out that Trump and his immediate family were using the charity donations for personal expenses.

patricia19

From CNN

The Justice Department is investigating a potential crime related to funneling money to the White House or related political committee in exchange for a presidential pardon. Newly unsealed court records show a judge reviewed a request in August from prosecutors to access documents obtained in a search as part of a bribery-for-pardon investigation. There are no names or timeline in the filing, but this presents a surprising new legal twist in the final days of President Trump's presidency.

Trump has shown he's willing to pardon or commute the sentence of allies convicted of federal charges, like Michael Flynn and Roger Stone. Other associates are allegedly making their own appeals to the President in hopes of a pardon before he leaves office, a source told CNN. The source said the list of associates broaching the subject of preemptive pardons that would seek to shield those individuals from prosecution includes Trump's legal counsel Rudy Giuliani.

 


patricia19

December 03, 2020, 01:59:41 PM #717 Last Edit: December 03, 2020, 02:01:45 PM by patricia19
Palmer Report
@PalmerReport
·
Dec 1
Trump operative Sidney Powell filed a lawsuit today which claims that Detroit is in Wisconsin. And Trump wonders why he lost this election by 6.5 million votes.

R Ross
@jrrosswrites
·
Dec 1
ANOTHER RED FLAG: Sidney Powell lawsuit seeking to overturn Wisconsin prez results lists
@derrickvanorden
 as plaintiff. Van Orden tells me he's not involved.

"I learned through social media today that my name was included in a lawsuit without my permission," Van Orden says.
Quote Tweet
JR Ross
@jrrosswrites
 · Dec 1
As part of the suit, @derrickvanorden is seeking a new election in the 3rd CD after losing to @RepRonKind by more than 10,000 votes in the Nov. 3  election


patricia19

Concern among legal experts is growing after Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones had her home raided by armed state police on Monday. Jones was fired in May after accusing Gov. Ron DeSantis' administration of minimizing the pandemic and skewing state data. Jones says she has evidence that state officials lied about early numbers and reporting. Now, state authorities are investigating whether she accessed a government messaging system without authorization to send a message urging her former colleagues to speak out about coronavirus deaths. Jones hasn't been arrested or charged with anything, and legal experts worry materials taken during the raid could affect other state employees. Others are concerned about what the raid, which was recorded, says about the actions of American police.

patricia19



CNN  and Rolling Stone

In the brief, the Republican members of Congress claim, without evidence, that the election "has been riddled with an unprecedented number of serious allegations of fraud and irregularities." They also ask that the court "ensure the Electoral College selects the candidate for President of the United States that was chosen by counting only lawful votes." Among the signatories are members of Republican leadership, House Minority Whip Steve Scalise, and Republican Policy Committee Chairman Gary Palmer.

In response, Democratic Rep. Bill Pascrell, Jr. has called on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to "refuse to seat any members trying to overturn the election and make Donald Trump an unelected dictator." He cites the 14th amendment, which forbids elected officials from engaging in "insurrection or rebellion" against the government.

UPDATE: The Supreme Court rejected the suit, saying in a brief order that Texas "has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections."

So far, the Supreme Court has not yet decided whether it will hear the case, but history will remember those who tried to subvert our democracy. Feel free to bookmark this page so you can remind them of it every time they claim to care about freedom.

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