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Started by diglady, March 29, 2016, 03:27:58 PM

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diglady

I live in an area where we have an HOA. The Rules & Regulations committee to meet at my house. I asked for all who come to have proof of Vaccine and to wear a mask. One woman responded:
"I am German and know understand how Jews felt during WWll"

 Can you believe the idiocy?

patricia19

QuoteI live in an area where we have an HOA. The Rules & Regulations committee to meet at my house. I asked for all who come to have proof of Vaccine and to wear a mask. One woman responded:
"I am German and know understand how Jews felt during WWll"

 Can you believe the idiocy?

Yes, it used to amaze me, even more, when they thought they were being cute. Now, nothing amazes me anymore. Horse dewormer, bleach drinking, and now drinking iodine? Just to avoid a quick arm jab and a lick of sense?

diglady


patricia19

I saw that and posted it in Covid. Power-hungry, empty-pocketed fools lead my state. While our hospitals are overrun, primary care rationed, people dying, thousands of new cases daily, the politicians continue to bleat about personal choice because the fringe fills those empty pockets!

patricia19

September 23, 2021, 12:22:38 PM #784 Last Edit: September 23, 2021, 12:33:49 PM by patricia19
Speaking of that fringe, an article from The Conversation by Robert Pape, Professor of Political Science, University of Chicago

 "A recent Washington demonstration supporting those charged with crimes for the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol fizzled, with no more than 200 demonstrators showing up. The organizers had promised 700 people would turn out – or more.

But the threat from far-right insurrectionists is not over.

For months, my colleagues and I at the University of Chicago Project on Security and Threats have been tracking insurrectionist sentiments in U.S. adults, most recently in surveys in June. We have found that 47 million American adults – nearly 1 in 5 – agree with the statement that "the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president." Of those, 21 million also agree that "use of force is justified to restore Donald J. Trump to the presidency."

Our survey found that many of these 21 million people with insurrectionist sentiments have the capacity for violent mobilization. At least 7 million of them already own a gun, and at least 3 million have served in the U.S. military and so have lethal skills. Of those 21 million, 6 million said they supported right-wing militias and extremist groups, and 1 million said they are themselves or personally know a member of such a group, including the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys.

Extreme beliefs
This polling found that 9% of American adults say they agree with the statement that "Use of force is justified to restore Donald J. Trump to the presidency." And 25% of adults either strongly or somewhat agree with the statement that "The 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and Joe Biden is an illegitimate president."

Overall, 8% of the survey participants share both of those views.

The margin of error of this survey was plus or minus 4 percentage points. So when calculating the number of the 258 million adult Americans who hold these views, we looked at the range of between 4% and 12% – which gave us between 10 million and 31 million. The best single figure is the middle of that range, 21 million.

People who said force is justified to restore Trump were consistent in their insurrectionist sentiments: Of them, 90% also see Biden as illegitimate, and 68% also think force may be needed to preserve America's traditional way of life.

The fringe moving into the mainstream
Combined with their military experience, gun ownership and connections to extremist groups and militias, this signals the existence of significant mainstream support in America for a violent insurrection.

This group of 21 million who agree both that force is justified to restore Trump and that Biden is an illegitimate president has two additional views that are also on the fringes of mainstream society:

63% agree with the statement that "African American people or Hispanic people in our country will eventually have more rights than whites" – a belief sometimes called "the Great Replacement."
54% agree that "A secret group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles is ruling the US government," which is the key belief in the QAnon movement.
Some people with insurrectionist sentiments hold one of these political views but not the other, suggesting there are multiple ways of thinking that lead a person toward the insurrectionist movement.

Broader support
This latest research reinforces our previous findings, that the Jan. 6 insurrection represents a far more mainstream movement than earlier instances of right-wing extremism across the country. Those events, mostly limited to white supremacist and militia groups, saw more than 100 individuals arrested from 2015 to 2020. But just 14% of those arrested for their actions on Jan. 6 are members of those groups. More than half are business owners or middle-aged white-collar professionals, and only 7% are unemployed.

There is no way to say for sure when – or even whether – these insurrectionists will take action. On Jan. 6, it took clear direction from Donald Trump and other political leaders to turn these dangerous sentiments into a violent reality. But the movement itself is larger and more complex than many people might like to think."

https://tinyurl.com/n3s2xk6n


diglady

I am in the process of reading: Peril by Woodward & Costa.

Trump's craziness is worse than I imagined. We were at Peril so much of the time. Awful, awful man.

Woodward is a wonderful writer and makes this reading easy and insightful. I highly recommend the book.

Sandy



Glad to heat that that book "peril" is so good ,
dig!  I will try to get it on books on disc....

So much terrible news is coming forth about
trumps yeARS  in the Whitehouse,  the problems that
he has caused  along with his hopes of taking over
the government again in 2024. 

It is so up setting to me that I have stopped listening
to the news.  I just check in a couple times a day
to see what is going on... and then spend my days
watching Netflix, Prime, hulu and othe shows
on demand.   

At least I have a choice of what passes thru my brain,
and I can skip what I don't like.   

Otherwise all is well here for me and I am
grateful for for the good things I have and the
bad things that have passed me by,  so far!!   

Hope you all are happy and well!

Sandy   

We live on a blue planet that
Circles around a ball of fire
Next to a moon that moves the sea
And  YOU don't believe in miracles?
 :thinking: