I wonder how they verified their claim.  But if they are initiating legal action then they must have some sort of proof.

Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens
Trump may have won popular vote

...snip...
“We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens,” tweeted Phillips after reporting that the group had completed an analysis of a database of 180 million voter registrations.
...snip....

http://www.infowars.com/report-three-million-votes-in-presidential-election-cast-by-illegal-aliens/

MeriJo, you have certainly had a very long and painful and frustrating time with your illness. I am so glad you were wise enough to speak up for yourself instead of accepting what was happening to you. I pray you will heal quickly and completely. I am so thankful that God spared you for us.

The last time I was here Hal was holding down the fort alone. Thanks Hal for keeping the site up and running.

MeriJo good to see you posting, and after all your travails you seem to be on the mend which is good news.

Dapphne and Dig, good to know that you are both still around. I have been away so long that when I first looked in I thought everyone was gone but Hal.

I am working on a project right now, but if I have time and the inclination I may post some Trumpets! later.

TaTa.....

Emma

Always happy to see others express their views.....welcome back Emma

Hi Emma, Yes I am still here and so glad to see you posting. I post infrequently as I am in pain. I fell 6th Oct and broke my back and was in hospital for 2 weeks-- now home and doing rehab. Doing much better.

Quote from: halkel on November 14, 2016, 10:55:59 PM
Always happy to see others express their views....

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My view is,  I AM VERY HAPPY!  THANK YOU!

Now let the changes begin!

GO RED!

Jenny, me too. God heard our prayers, and His Will was done. Now prayers go out for our President elect...he will need them. There are mean and cruel people out there, just waiting for him to make a mis-step.

Emma, yes, Hal kept us informed and kept the place active. Thank you Hal.

Unless "the Donald" makes a 100 degree change in his attitude, I personally don't think God had much to do with it.  I didn't like Hillary either and wrote in Bernie Sanders, but hey--all you people thought you were getting your way.  I'm waiting to see how much our allies can work with the egotistical supporter of President Putin--who supported Trump.

SCFSue

SCFSue, we will have to wait until January 21st to see him in action.  But hang on when he starts.  It's gonna be a ride I am looking forward to.

How do you like Obama going overseas and telling everyone all about our President elect.                     
Talk about ego.......

Just wondering.  Are all these anti-Trump demonstrators racist good for nothing like us anti-Obama folks, even if we didn't demonstrate.  Just told the truth about him.

I was just wondering since I haven't seen any comments from any of you.

Those anti demonstrators-- simply democrats who do NOT believe in the Democratic system. They are poorly educated and poorly brought up children!

They claim, when confronted, to be exercising their freedom of speech but  they don't allow anyone else with thoughts unlike theirs to speak out!!

Hal, those that are demonstrating are just plain demonstrating, I don't think they care one fig about what they yell...they are just like bad kids, that need a good spanking. If they were true patriots they would not be out there disrupting normal things..people coming home from work that are tired and hungry and have to worry about if their roads are closed..Police that are over worked and frustrated with the mass of ignorant humanity, store owners that are concerned about their merchandise....but these demonstrators don't care. They are having a great time. Misbehaving. tsk tsk tsk.

Quote from: June Drabek on November 14, 2016, 12:16:27 PM
MeriJo, you have certainly had a very long and painful and frustrating time with your illness. I am so glad you were wise enough to speak up for yourself instead of accepting what was happening to you. I pray you will heal quickly and completely. I am so thankful that God spared you for us.

Dear June,

Thank you for your kind words.  Everything, I learned after I got to the hospital each of those two times surprised me no end.  I had no advertised symptoms at all (chest pain), and when I had the mini-stroke (so doctor said) I did realize my foot was not minding me, and that I was having a stroke.  Now, I'm trying to keep exercising, by walking around in the house and outdoors a bit using a support walker.  My son walks with me so I won't fall over.  Outdoors he follows me with the wheelchair so I can sit down if I feel wobbly.  The neurologist said my mobility would come back.


I'm having a time with looking for articles to read that sound a little truthful these days.  I did find one this morning by Continetti of the Free Beacon who contradicts the pundits who say that the transition work by Trump is in disarray.  It isn't, but most articles are still negative, hostile and/or speculative.  Here's the link.

http://freebeacon.com/columns/trump-takes-charge/

I like  Trump's picks so far. 

Quote from: Emma on November 14, 2016, 09:45:32 PM
The last time I was here Hal was holding down the fort alone. Thanks Hal for keeping the site up and running.

MeriJo good to see you posting, and after all your travails you seem to be on the mend which is good news.

Dapphne and Dig, good to know that you are both still around. I have been away so long that when I first looked in I thought everyone was gone but Hal.

I am working on a project right now, but if I have time and the inclination I may post some Trumpets! later.

TaTa.....

Emma

Thank you, Emma! 

I do feel well.  I'm home, and not in the hospital.  More relaxing. 

Good to know you may be popping back in from time to time,

I've spent so much time reading the posts about the many illnesses & accidents I need to get done what is a must for today. My gr-daughter is to deliver today (one way or another) so need to be ready to help if necessary, any way possible.  I was in here once before this election & was here back before the 2000 election. 

I keep making notes on "the computer upstairs & downstairs" and find when I go to post, I'm on the wrong computer.  This one has the research I was doing on Socialism because a gr-daughter that graduated from college last near, worked for Bernie when he showed up before the election.  None of my kids or grands had the history of types of government that I got from a grade school teacher, she was my home room teacher one year but taught history for  3-7 grades during & at the end of WWII.  She was Native American, never married and traveled every summer.  She made history exciting and I thought she was the smartest "worldly" person alive. 

Here is what I got from the computer about Socialism/Bernie Sanders plan for us. We were taught that there must be a period of Dictatorship before a country could attain "pure Socialism" because nobody was willing to work hard anymore, no ambition or reason for it.

What is the definition of socialism? socialism definition. An economic system in which the production and distribution of goods are controlled substantially by the government rather than by private enterprise, and in which cooperation rather than competition guides economic activity.

What is a socialist government?
Socialism means production to satisfy human needs, not as under capitalism, for sale and profit. Socialism means direct control and management of the industries and social services by the workers through a democratic government based on their nationwide economic organization.

What is the Marxist theory?
Marxists believe that the transition from capitalism to socialism is an inevitable part of the development of human society; as Lenin stated, "it is evident that Marx deduces the inevitability of the transformation of capitalist society [into a socialist society] wholly and exclusively from the economic law of motion ...

http://www.philosophybasics.com/branch_socialism.html

History of Socialism   
Certain elements of socialist thought long predate the socialist ideology that emerged in the first half of the 19th Century. For example, Plato's "The Republic" and Sir Thomas More's "Utopia", dating from 1516, have been cited as including Socialist or Communist ideas.

Modern Socialism emerged in early 19th Century Britain and France, from a diverse array of doctrines and social experiments, largely as a reaction or protest against some of the excesses of 18th and 19th Century Capitalism. Early 19th Century Socialist thought was largely utopian in nature, followed by the more pragmatic and revolutionary Socialist and Communist movements in the later 19th Century.

Social critics in the late 18th Century and early 19th Century such as Robert Owen (1771 - 1858), Charles Fourier (1772 - 1837), Pierre-Joseph Proudhon (1809 - 1865), Louis Blanc (1811 - 1882) and Henri de Saint-Simon (1760 - 1825) criticized the excesses of poverty and inequality of the Industrial Revolution, and advocated reforms such as the egalitarian distribution of wealth and the transformation of society into small utopian communities in which private property was to be abolished.  A lie is not a lie if it benefits the cause.

For all of you that have been through such horrific issues, I am happy you are here and doing better.  My heart goes out to each of you, we never know what is ahead but it helps to know we do have people in our corner, works for me.  Hugs & prayers for all in need.  Shirley/Tisie

Shirley, an excellent post.  One thing I would like to add, especially since we are fixing to celebrate a day of Thanksgiving first celebrated by the Pilgrims.  Our forefathers learned a valuable lesson that should be taught in our schools.


The Pilgrims’ Failed Experiment With Socialism Should Teach America A Lesson

http://www.offthegridnews.com/religion/the-pilgrims-failed-experiment-with-socialism-should-teach-america-a-lesson/

Thank you, Hal, I was almost afraid to come back in case I "didn't say things right".  I really don't like to insult anyone but having lived with socialized medicine 3 years during mid '50s (in England) and the next door neighbor explaining the problems of people using the doctors offices as a gathering place, it confirmed what that teacher said. The English couple next door (no base housing) were so kind to me, dumb kid only 21 with a baby & no family to get advice from.  No phone calls for 3 years, unlike today.  Anyway, people on both sides treated me like family and offered advice about where to buy things & what life was all about.  Taxes were so high the man next door would not work overtime on Sat because a full day of work only earned him 6 pence. They all dreaded needing any special medical procedure because it took so long to get to the top of the list.  No incentive to work harder because tax wiped it out.  I was afraid that Hillary had made a deal with Bernie to give him a top job in exchange for his support, and now I fear that in trying to pull everyone together that "the Donald" may do the same. 

I still believe the news media is stirring up trouble to have something to write about.  It is about time they bash the protesters .... for Pete's sake, every 4 years half the population is disappointed by the election but nobody has ever acted so stupid as this year.  Wonder if any of them ever thought about thanking the people that feed and support them........

First link didn't work for me, Hal, but the second was interesting.  My history teacher drilled that into us long ago.... One of my ancestors planned to settle in Nauvoo, Illinois commune but we have a letter (1850s) he wrote to family still in France to "don't bother going there, it was chaos and they were going to New Orleans."  From there they moved up river to MO. 

Too bad it wasn't "politically correct" to talk about socialism & communism when our kids & grands were growing up...   okay to talk about sex & things that made us older folks squirm.  It was okay to bash anyone with ambition but not okay to pat someone on the back for winning, everyone had to get a ribbon or medal, no losers in the world today, even if they are too lazy to try.

My eyes are giving me fits, been working on photos of the newest member of the family born today (that I am getting by phone or e-mail) and the ones we took at our Thanksgiving gathering last Sunday.  Nice to see so many familiar names in here.... and since we had EmmaBarb many years ago, I'm guessing this new Emma is not one & the same? 

Happy Thanksgiving. Hope everyone had a chance to enjoy a good meal and family visits. I see that Christmas trees are for sale already, so everything is back to normal.

However, the newspapers keep publishing interesting articles. There are many sides to any event that occurs in such a huge country as the USA. Here's one from the New York Times, by Paul Krugman.

"The Populism Perplex"

"Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by more than two million, and she would probably be president-elect if the director of the F.B.I. hadn't laid such a heavy thumb on the scales, just days before the election. But it shouldn't even have been close; what put Donald Trump in striking distance was overwhelming support from whites without college degrees. So what can Democrats do to win back at least some of those voters?

   "Recently Bernie Sanders offered an answer: Democrats should 'go beyond identity politics.' What's needed, he said, are candidates who understand that working-class incomes are down, who will 'stand up to Wall Street, to the insurance companies, to the drug companies, to the fossil fuel industry.'
 
   "But is there any reason to believe that this would work? Let me offer some reasons for doubt.
   
   "First, a general point: Any claim that changed policy positions will win elections assumes that the public will hear about those positions. How is that supposed to happen, when most of the news media simply refuse to cover policy substance? Remember, over the course of the 2016 campaign, the three network news shows devoted a total of 35 minutes combined to policy issues -- all policy issues.  Meanwhile, they devoted 135 minutes to Mrs. Clinton's emails.
   
   "Beyond this, the fact is that Democrats have already been pursuing policies that are much better for the white working class than anything the other party has to offer. Yet this has brought no political reward.
   
   "Consider eastern Kentucky, a very white area which has benefited enormously from Obama-era initiatives. Take, in particular, the case of Clay County, which the Times declared a few years ago to be the hardest place in America to live. It's still very hard, but at least most of its residents now have health insurance: Independent estimates say that the uninsured rate fell from 27 percent in 2013 to 10 percent in 2016. That's the effect of the Affordable Care Act, which Mrs. Clinton promised to preserve and extend but Mr. Trump promised to kill.
   
   "Mr. Trump received 87 percent of Clay County's vote.
   
   "Now, you might say that health insurance is one thing, but what people want are good jobs. Eastern Kentucky used to be coal country, and Mr. Trump, unlike Mrs. Clinton, promised to bring the coal jobs back. (So much for the idea that Democrats need a candidate who will stand up to the fossil fuels industry.) But it's a nonsensical promise.
   
   "Where did Appalachia's coal mining jobs go? They weren't lost to unfair competition from China or Mexico. What happened instead was, first, a decades-long erosion as U.S. coal production shifted from underground mining to strip mining and mountaintop removal, which require many fewer workers: Coal employment peaked in 1979, fell rapidly during the Reagan years, and was down more than half by 2007. A further plunge came in recent years thanks to fracking. None of this is reversible.
   
   "Is the case of former coal country exceptional? Not really. Unlike the decline in coal, some of the long-term decline in manufacturing employment can be attributed to rising trade deficits, but even there it's a fairly small fraction of the story. Nobody can credibly promise to bring the old jobs back; what you can promise -- and Mrs. Clinton did -- are things like guaranteed health care and higher minimum wages. But working-class whites overwhelmingly voted for the politicians who promise to destroy those gains.
   
   "So what happened her? Part of the answer may be that Mr. Trump had no problems with telling lies about what he could accomplish. If so, there may be a backlash when the coal and manu- facturing jobs don't come back, while health insurance disappears.
   
   "But maybe not. Maybe a Trump administration can keep its supporters on board, not by improving their lives, but by feeding their sense of resentment.
   
   "For let's be serious here: You can't explain the votes of places like Clay County as a response to disagreements about trade policy. The only way to make sense of what happened is to see the vote as an expression of, well, identity politics -- some combination of white resentment at what voters see as favoritism toward nonwhites (even though it isn't) and anger on the part of the less educated at liberal elites whom they imagine look down on them.
   
   "To be honest, I don't fully understand this resentment. In particular, I don't know why imagined liberal disdain inspires so much more anger than the very real disdain of conservatives who see the poverty of places like eastern Kentucky as a sign of the personal and moral inadequacy of their residents.
   
   "One thing is clear, however: Democrats have to figure out why the white working class just voted overwhelmingly against its own economic interests, not pretend that a bit more populism would solve the problem."

Fidel Castro is dead....

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article117201053.html

The old Devil has a new playmate.

Hmmmmm

The Mysterious Case Of Jill Stein's Surging Recount Costs

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-25/mysterious-case-jill-steins-surging-recount-costs

rutumi, Please don't post an entire article--just the link. In that way Senior and Friends won't get into trouble for breaking copywrite laws.

Interesting article tho.

Thanks, Diglady. I didn't think there would be a problem as long as source is cited.
Also, I have been given links to the NYT that I have not been able to open since "my 10 free article"s were used up.

So, anyhow, I'll now place a link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/25/opinion/no-extra-pay-for-extra-work.html?_r=0

Interesting article ending with "For millions of Americans, there will be no extra pay for extra work anytime soon -- unless Mr. Trump makes it happen."

Merry Christmas Everyone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW85ZcswiqM

The Liberals are never, never wrong........yeah.....sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahkMA6JPOHU

We need a tad of music and laughter once in a while:

http://www.wimp.com/brassband/

Hal, Are you ok? Haven't heard from you  since 6 Dec.

Dig, I am kinda down with a bad cold.  I did get out today and saw my Urologist and got some good news.  My PSA was zero but my ultrasound didn't produce any usable results, so he is scheduling me for a CT scan, I didn't look but I am sure it will be with contrast.


I hope your back is improving.  My old body kinda gave out on me this afternoon.  But I was able to get out and get my wife a carryout supper.  Now I am going to lay me down to sleep.  Wife is suffering from the same thing I got a very bad cold.

Hal Glad to hear from you but sorry you have a cold. Take good care of yourself.

My back is better and I am starting to do some walking . PT still comes to the house and I have a bunch of exercises to do daily. I am NOT used to having things done for me. I hate it! People- neighbors- have been great.

Dig and Hal, I'm sorry it has taken me so long to answer your posts, and I am alarmed that the two 'Rocks' holding this site down are both under the weather.

Hal, good luck on your tests and I hope all is well.

Dig, glad you have good neighbors, and that you are back 'up and at 'um'. Stay well and keep us up to date.

On politics.......I saw on CNN Michelle Obama pushing a man 'inside' a shopping cart through a big box store. What was that about? I have no idea. The Obama's seem desperate to be on television.

Emma

Well folks the Democrats have finally lost it all.  Even got all the ding bat celebrates doing commercials wanting the constitution ignored.  And everytime Trump makes an appointment they go a little more bonkers. 

Obama has managed to politicize every part of government, including our intelligence agencies.  The Donald sure has his work cut out for him to clean (drain the swamp) all these lefties out of government.

No doubt about it folks, we elected the right person to get this country back to what we knew as the United States of America.
Of course, it is going to be so strange to see Obama leading all those demonstations down Penn ave.  And demanding that safe zones be created for the snowflakes.