Tisie, do keep yourself hydrated, drinks lots of water.  It will help.

Or better yet, lots of gatoraid.

Tisie, Hal is correct, you must stay hydrated. Think of the liquid going through your system and washing out the germs, just as a shower cleans our exterior. And here at Rowntree they pushed Gatorade to the nth. degree. It replaces the elctrolytes you are losing with the flu symptoms. I am praying you will soon be on the mend.

Thanks, Hal & June.  I think I'll live but not sure I am ready to.  My daughter recommended a squeeze of lemon in water & thought it helped her but I have such a problem with acids making sores/blisters on my tongue.  I was going to shower & wash my hair & get out to drive through KFC but already it doesn't sound good & hate to go into the store to drag my germs around, will have a look at Gatorade, it may have changed some in the last 30  years. I do have a bottle of water in every room to sip on.  Maybe I can go to sleep & feel better again.  I didn't feel this rotten after heart surgery.  Guess this isn't the place to whine, huh?  I was surprised I was moved to that other spot.... started by or for me~~

An American Liberal in action:


VIDEO: Passengers cheer as woman berating Trump supporter is kicked off plane
January 22, 2017
By Kyle Olson

Actually there is two video's watch both.




http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-passengers-cheer-woman-berating-trump-supporter-kicked-off-plane/

I am afraid I need to go back to the Dr tomorrow, my back hurts & I don't have a problem with pain, just want to know why & what it means.  So far today I got down half a canned peach, maybe an ounce of chicken noodle soup, not much for someone that loves to eat.  Tomorrow is the last pill.

Came to ring bells that Mike Pompeo was approved, I could not imagine anyone not being pleased with his appointment.  Not many politicians graduated top of the class at the military academy (majored in Mechanical Engineering), served active duty & then graduated from Harvard.  If you Google his wife, Susan, it shows the commercials she make when he ran for office, so cute when Mike come back with "I approve this message and crazy about the messenger".... He would be my pick for President when Trump goes out of office.

Back to bed.

Still out here whining about this flu bug, cough & sore insides from coughing so long & hard. 

Hal, I am so sick of the news media preaching how people disapprove of Trump.... what's the best way to show when one does approve???  I know a lot of people that approve of what he has done so far and am one that is convinced our enemies that would like to tear down the US economy and spirit..... but are not sure how to handle Trump.  Works for me, let them wonder just what he might do to protect us. 

Anyone that thinks we can BUY respect doesn't have much common sense.  We used to have laws that other countries respected, not anymore. I dare anyone that objects to the restrictions put on the nations being banned, to push their way into any of those countries while preaching a different religion or culture.  Do you really think they will feed, clothe & educate you and let you roam their country at will?  REALLY? 

So, I feel just enough better to stand & salute the stars & stripes and all the laws designed to protect what our vets have been willing to fight and die for.  God Bless America!  You don't have to belong to any Party to believe in the US and defend our right to protect the laws this country was founded on.  When we become an American we are part of each other, American first.  AMERICAN FIRST!

Shirley, many, actually most, of those making accusations had no problem with Obama making or changing law.  A bunch of hipocrits.  And thee activist judges grrrrrrrrrr

Thanks, Hal..... I feel crappy enough to have that chip on my shoulder & feel like the news media needs to all be banished- lose their jobs & be pointed out as being opinionated/biased.  That is not what "news media" is all about, at least in the days before they took so many pay offs.  I can start taking note of commercials during any newscasters that irritate me, & let their stations know I won't be watching them anymore, maybe enough can make a difference.  Guess I could spend (instead of earn interest on savings), so I don't have to pay taxes to let "them" give my money to people that didn't earn it. I think I am feverish.   

I would like to suggest those who do not have a copy of the United States Constitution purchase one and read it, cover to cover.  I think you'd be surprised at what is un-Constitutional.

SCF Sue

I do have a copy and have read it.  Please point out to me where it talks about welfare and schools.  Just two examples.

Re Immigration ban:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1952


Note the authors were Demos and Jimmy Carter who used it Demo--Now they riot Liberals are indeed sick!!!

Why did the courts not allow Trumps Immigration Ban program ? Can some one tell me in a few understandable words why they are against it ?

They are Liberal and don't like Trump. And IMO they hate America. Or at the very least could care less about our country.

Oh my, still at it.  Hope you Texans and border states yell when they have
to raise taxes to pay for Trump's wall when the Mexicans won't.

Hi, new here, and would like to join in, but reading back over the last weeks, I feel dismayed by the manner in which you folks have often addressed each other. Would you speak to someone's face that way if you found yourselves sitting together at a table enjoying a cup of coffee? I can't imagine it!

I haven't seen much evidence of anyone of any political mindset in this discussion reaching out and trying to understand those with differing political stands. Not saying it would actually prove possible to understand, but a gracious effort would be refreshing. It doesn't surprise me that this group is faltering and losing members with divergent views and valuable thoughts. I am not so sure I will be welcome here either.

As for June's question, the courts shut down the ban because after careful review, they deemed it unconstitutional. Who can say if any individual one of them personally likes or dislikes the spirit of it? They followed the law. Period.

Hal, you have a way to go to convince me that any one of those judges hates America. And, whether they lean liberal or conservative, or how they feel about any particular political figure doesn't matter so long as they honor the law and the Constitution.

Ray, it is nice to see you here. I remember you well from the old Senior Net. Eons ago.

periwinkle, you don't remember that the Ninth is the most overturned court in the U.S.   It is populated with Liberal judges, who could care less about our country only liberal ideas.

The law was not addressed in either court.  Only what Trump was thinking, according to the judges.

Is Trump's 'immigration ban' illegal? Ask the last FIVE presidents

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2017/01/is-trumps-immigration-ban-illegal-ask-the-last-five-presidents

Hal, thank you.It is difficult not to find these judges discriminating against the President, when other Presidents have been able to use their vote against certain immigrants, and were not judged as Trump is. Isn't our Congress able to override the Supreme Court ?

Trump--business as usual from the White House.  Condemning a business for refusing to carry his wife's line of garments.

and providing taxpayer money for security for his son's business trip to a South American country promoting one of his business projects.

JUne Congress can rewrite a law, but that is the only way I know of.  But it still won't stop a judge from making law.

Lawyers--They help make  the laws, prosecute the laws, defend those breaking the laws. judge the laws and also help people break the laws

Lawyers make up a large portion of Congress and the state legislative bodies.

Polls, for what they are worth.  Trump in a few weeks has a favorable rating of 43%, the lowest of any president, including Tricky Dickey.

See what he does with his first challenge--N. Korea and its missile.

No, OUR congress cannot override OUR supreme court. The government of the United States operates under a system of checks and balances, the separation of powers: the Judicial, Legislative and Executive branches.

http://www.pbs.org/tpt/constitution-usa-peter-sagal/we-the-people/separation-of-powers/

Periwinkle, they not only can re-write laws to reflect what the courts have ruled.  They have.  Not override, to work around a ruling.  Of course the supreme court has changed the meaning of what a law actually says, like in Obama care.  Where the law said you had to buy insurance or pay a fine, clearly unconstitutional, so they just said the "fine" was a "tax" no change in wording though.

Hal, that was my understanding. That congress can change or re-wirte a sentence that would allow them to change the S.C. ruling. The way Politics is being abused, we almost need two or three supreme courts.
Two that can de-ride one another and a third to tell them to behave, or else.

And then of course there is God. He would be the "or else".

June, before the Liberals started getting their way God played a big part in our government and laws.  Hopefully Trump will bring God back into play.

God seems to work in strange ways.  Oh, the turmoil in Washington is
Obama's fault.  Look what God has wrought  in his home town.

It will be a sad day when the Bible replaces our Constitution and some
people are more equal than others.

Hal,

Which version of God do you believe should be brought into the government? So many religions to choose from! And exactly what part is it you would have Him play?

When you say He once figured in a much larger way in our laws are you referencing the Blue Laws? Some of them are still in force.

Yes, I am old enough to remember when my Mom couldn't take my little sister and me to the movies on a Sunday afternoon to see Snow White due to a Blue Law. Movie theaters had to stay closed on Sundays.

Is that what you want to have back?

Lets start at the beginning, shall we.

......excerpted......

At Federal Hall, Vice President John Adams, the Senate, and the House of Representatives awaited the President’s arrival in the Senate Chamber. After being received by Congress, Washington stepped from the chamber onto the balcony, where he was followed by the Senators and Representatives. Before the assembled crowd of spectators, Robert Livingston, Chancellor of the State of New York, administered the oath of office prescribed by the Constitution: “I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.” After repeating this oath, Washington kissed the Bible held for him by the Chancellor, who called out, “Long live George Washington, President of the United States,” and a salvo of 13 cannons was discharged. Except for taking the oath, the law required no further inaugural ceremonies. But, upon reentering the Senate Chamber, the President read the address that is featured here. After this address, he and the members of Congress proceeded to St. Paul’s Church for divine service. A brilliant fireworks display in the evening ended the official program for this historic day.

Washington's address:

Fellow-Citizens of the Senate and of the House of Representatives:

Among the vicissitudes incident to life no event could have filled me with greater anxieties than that of which the notification was transmitted by your order, and received on the 14th day of the present month. On the one hand, I was summoned by my Country, whose voice I can never hear but with veneration and love, from a retreat which I had chosen with the fondest predilection, and, in my flattering hopes, with an immutable decision, as the asylum of my declining years--a retreat which was rendered every day more necessary as well as more dear to me by the addition of habit to inclination, and of frequent interruptions in my health to the gradual waste committed on it by time. On the other hand, the magnitude and difficulty of the trust to which the voice of my country called me, being sufficient to awaken in the wisest and most experienced of her citizens a distrustful scrutiny into his qualifications, could not but overwhelm with despondence one who (inheriting inferior endowments from nature and unpracticed in the duties of civil administration) ought to be peculiarly conscious of his own deficiencies. In this conflict of emotions all I dare aver is that it has been my faithful study to collect my duty from a just appreciation of every circumstance by which it might be affected. All I dare hope is that if, in executing this task, I have been too much swayed by a grateful remembrance of former instances, or by an affectionate sensibility to this transcendent proof of the confidence of my fellow-citizens, and have thence too little consulted my incapacity as well as disinclination for the weighty and untried cares before me, my error will be palliated by the motives which mislead me, and its consequences be judged by my country with some share of the partiality in which they originated.

Such being the impressions under which I have, in obedience to the public summons, repaired to the present station, it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official act my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a Government instituted by themselves for these essential purposes, and may enable every instrument employed in its administration to execute with success the functions allotted to his charge. In tendering this homage to the Great Author of every public and private good, I assure myself that it expresses your sentiments not less than my own, nor those of my fellow- citizens at large less than either. No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than those of the United States. Every step by which they have advanced to the character of an independent nation seems to have been distinguished by some token of providential agency; and in the important revolution just accomplished in the system of their united government the tranquil deliberations and voluntary consent of so many distinct communities from which the event has resulted can not be compared with the means by which most governments have been established without some return of pious gratitude, along with an humble anticipation of the future blessings which the past seem to presage. These reflections, arising out of the present crisis, have forced themselves too strongly on my mind to be suppressed. You will join with me, I trust, in thinking that there are none under the influence of which the proceedings of a new and free government can more auspiciously commence.

By the article establishing the executive department it is made the duty of the President "to recommend to your consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient." The circumstances under which I now meet you will acquit me from entering into that subject further than to refer to the great constitutional charter under which you are assembled, and which, in defining your powers, designates the objects to which your attention is to be given. It will be more consistent with those circumstances, and far more congenial with the feelings which actuate me, to substitute, in place of a recommendation of particular measures, the tribute that is due to the talents, the rectitude, and the patriotism which adorn the characters selected to devise and adopt them. In these honorable qualifications I behold the surest pledges that as on one side no local prejudices or attachments, no separate views nor party animosities, will misdirect the comprehensive and equal eye which ought to watch over this great assemblage of communities and interests, so, on another, that the foundation of our national policy will be laid in the pure and immutable principles of private morality, and the preeminence of free government be exemplified by all the attributes which can win the affections of its citizens and command the respect of the world. I dwell on this prospect with every satisfaction which an ardent love for my country can inspire, since there is no truth more thoroughly established than that there exists in the economy and course of nature an indissoluble union between virtue and happiness; between duty and advantage; between the genuine maxims of an honest and magnanimous policy and the solid rewards of public prosperity and felicity; since we ought to be no less persuaded that the propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained; and since the preservation of the sacred fire of liberty and the destiny of the republican model of government are justly considered, perhaps, as deeply, as finally, staked on the experiment entrusted to the hands of the American people.

Besides the ordinary objects submitted to your care, it will remain with your judgment to decide how far an exercise of the occasional power delegated by the fifth article of the Constitution is rendered expedient at the present juncture by the nature of objections which have been urged against the system, or by the degree of inquietude which has given birth to them. Instead of undertaking particular recommendations on this subject, in which I could be guided by no lights derived from official opportunities, I shall again give way to my entire confidence in your discernment and pursuit of the public good; for I assure myself that whilst you carefully avoid every alteration which might endanger the benefits of an united and effective government, or which ought to await the future lessons of experience, a reverence for the characteristic rights of freemen and a regard for the public harmony will sufficiently influence your deliberations on the question how far the former can be impregnably fortified or the latter be safely and advantageously promoted.

To the foregoing observations I have one to add, which will be most properly addressed to the House of Representatives. It concerns myself, and will therefore be as brief as possible. When I was first honored with a call into the service of my country, then on the eve of an arduous struggle for its liberties, the light in which I contemplated my duty required that I should renounce every pecuniary compensation. From this resolution I have in no instance departed; and being still under the impressions which produced it, I must decline as inapplicable to myself any share in the personal emoluments which may be indispensably included in a permanent provision for the executive department, and must accordingly pray that the pecuniary estimates for the station in which I am placed may during my continuance in it be limited to such actual expenditures as the public good may be thought to require.

Having thus imparted to you my sentiments as they have been awakened by the occasion which brings us together, I shall take my present leave; but not without resorting once more to the benign Parent of the Human Race in humble supplication that, since He has been pleased to favor the American people with opportunities for deliberating in perfect tranquillity, and dispositions for deciding with unparalleled unanimity on a form of government for the security of their union and the advancement of their happiness, so His divine blessing may be equally conspicuous in the enlarged views, the temperate consultations, and the wise measures on which the success of this Government must depend.

Transcription courtesy of the Avalon Project at Yale Law

School.

https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?doc=11&page=transcript

I will take the God of which George Washington and his government speaks.

Oh, at the blue laws of which you speak, that was man's law.  Right, wrong or indifferent Blue Laws existed existed in other countries.   Religion doesn't corrupt, man corrupts religion.

periwinkle, I wish some of the blue laws were back. I think workers need time with families. I  don't like stores being open on Sunday. Nor do I like stores being open 24/7.

I think the present WDC activities are almost a good replacement for the now gone Barnum and Baily circus!

diglady,

You make a great point that workers should have more time with their families, and that we don't need access to most stores 24 hours a day, 7 days a week!

Morality-based legislation may not be the best answer however. I really don't believe it is. Given the losses in manufacturing in the country, maybe there is no answer, at least not for the present.   

So many people are in need jobs and there just aren't enough full time, good paying jobs for everyone. Maybe those around-the-clock stores provide a little cover for them? I wish there were more answers.

I look back on my young-adult years and remember that jobs were plentiful and everyone had work if they wanted it. The pay wasn't always so good, but then rents and prices were much lower.

With all that is happening on the political scene I expect it soon to be a-buzz with discussion and debate in here.

I have yet to see where any god in the past has been anything but a
myth.  Every society has their own myth explaining the unexplainable.
It is very likely that Hal's lengthy story about Washington and the
Bible is MYTH and story.  There is also story that Washington did not
attend church.

One president went so far as to say that this is not a Christian nation.
It isn't and should never be one.  We should have a secular
republic not a democracy where one group can control others
and deprive them of their equality and freedom of thought and
religion.