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Johann Mc · June 26, 2022, 03:39:13 PM

I keep trying to post here and it keeps throwing me out. Haven't posted for awhile. My husband passed away in December 2020 and I have been busy managing things and dealing with financial matters. Have really missed Seniors and Friends and hope to get back more often. Doing well except for a bad left knee but I have a girl from Comfort Keepers helping me three mornings a week and she is a real gift. Hope to be back again soon!

RAMMEL · June 26, 2022, 03:46:50 PM

Johann Mc, --- You made it this time. Don't give up on us A little slower maybe, but we're here. Welcome back.

Vanilla-Jackie · June 28, 2022, 09:22:27 AM

If anyone posts and is interested, i am soon to be community transport collected and taken to our small group but, lovely and friendly group for Cancer - Multiple Sclerosis and Parkinson's Disease exercise class...The young ( very fit ) girl - lady who runs it lost her famous uncle to Parkinsons, he raised a lot of money for Parkinson's and was an Ambassador for his charity...He can be found on Wikipedia...

Two weeks ago after i came back home, i took a fall at home, could not get up, pressed my call alarm, it took the ambulance six hours before it reached me and got me up on an electric lifting cushion....oh what a relief when i was standing, even though i had been sitting on my soaked TENA pad...I had never seen so many multi coloured wires they attached to my body...

Marilyne · June 28, 2022, 11:41:35 AM

Jackie - I feel bad for you, that you had to wait six hours, for help to come and get you up on your feet again. Seems way too long, and I'm sure you were upset and miserable, waiting for such along time. I wonder why they didn't immediately send a couple of young, strong police or fire officers, to help you back up?

Looks like some good came of the ordeal, because you have found a group of people with similar health issues to yours. The exercise class sounds pleasant and the young lady in charge has a real dedication, because of her uncle with Parkinson's. Hope you're feeling much better, and that your class today was fun, as well as helpful.

Tomereader1 · June 28, 2022, 04:10:19 PM

Jackie, good to hear from you, but wish it had been better news than your having fallen and waited 6 hrs for ambulance. Glad you have a new group to attend, including transportation.

Hang in There, and be Safe!

Denver · June 28, 2022, 07:08:23 PM

Tuesday afternoon HELLO🦋

Another doctor appointment in the books. I know many of you say "all you seem to do is go to doctors".......man oh man am I ever living up to that😩. I sure do not like being that person that ONLY talks about themselves, ESPECIALLY their woes! I have so many caring medical professionals trying to get me well......I am truly blessed🦋

MARILYN.......our Av's are back in Denver with that coveted STANLEY CUP❤️ Oh my goodness what a honor‼️ The big celebration is Thursday morning in downtown Denver...... the younger me would be more than delighted to go and cheer them on🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪 We have plans to be with our little grands that morning.....and that is much more to my liking🥰🥰.

OH NO......JACKIE. I am so saddened to read about your fall and how many hours it took for help to get to you😩😩😩. Bless your heart.....that just seems totally unrealistic to have to wait that long for a medical emergency 😤😡. I hope you have not had any sever issues from the fall or being on the ground for so long😭
I hope your outing today went well and you enjoyed the time with this group🥰🥰

JOHANN, so good to see a post from you. I knew of Windell's passing
and I often think of you. I hope you will be able to come back more often to share time with our group. So many are no longer able to log in and they and YOU are sorely missed. Right now, I have to log in EVERY time I come in even though I mark it to keep me logged in 🤪

My best to you all.

Jenny

MaryPage · June 29, 2022, 10:58:36 PM

Well, we're none of us getting any younger, and that's for sure.

Jenny, I for one do not feel you or anyone else goes on too much about how they are doing health wise. I consider you ALL of total interest, as old friends, with an extra dollop thrown in for you, as we have actually attended a bash together. But I actually Want to support and sympathize with my old friends.

So my turn: I just got home from the hospital this evening. Went by ambulance yesterday morning early and left hospital most gratefully just after six tonight, again by ambulance. I swear, hospitals seem to want to kill me. I am SO much better off at home. I will admit to being grateful for some wonderful surgeries performed by perfect angels. It is the daily grind while getting through the days other than the time in surgery that is so dreadful to live through.

This time for me was a bad episode with my C.O.P.D. I woke in the wee hours with labored breathing. All fixed now, except I am full up with doctor's appointments through the end of this week. Should be a restful weekend. My children all gathered round. They are a bit of all right!

Jackie, I think that is one of the very saddest stories I have Ever heard. Were you able to keep in touch with the Call Alarm people? Did they explain what was holding up your ambulance? I feel as though I had been through that with you now. Would that I could have been! I was lucky in that mine came within something like 2 minutes, I swear! And Debi & Chip followed in a car and Anne got to the hospital at the same time we did.

The reason the hospital insisted on the ambulance in both directions was because they are equipped with oxygen, and I have no walking around oxygen. I just have a large machine next to my easy chair. That will be remedied this week, and I will also have a small back pack for walking around, or something like.

We'll be fine! We're a feisty bunch!

Vanilla-Jackie · June 30, 2022, 01:00:00 AM

Mary Page...in answer to your question...
...the voice on the other end of my call alert alarm did keep asking me at what seemed like hourly intervals, if i was alright, then told me at the time an ambulance is on its way...
On one occasion i believe an ambulance driver phoned me on my mobile which was passed to me by my elderly keep safe church man who was alerted ( i was not by myself ) and after the ambulance i believed that was on the way asked a few questions as to was i bleeding, was i hurt, cut, was i concussed etc, etc, i said as far as i am aware, no, he then said he would soon be with me, two hours later he wasn't with me, then the caller alert spoke again and said it could be quite some time before an ambulance gets to me...I can only assume they prioritise and get called out to other emergencies...Yet i had my fall around 4.20 pm, an ambulance finally arrived at 10.15 pm...By then another elderly church friend number two had been summoned by church friend number one, with me, but i do remember calling out to him as time was getting on and i knew he too was wanting to get home to his wife, " this ambulance isn't going to come, is it? thinking that when he leaves, i would be all by myself waiting through the night for an ambulance that may or may not come... this was around 10 pm. then 15 minutes later they arrived, what a relief when they walked through my door...Have to say they were both lovely, she in particular, so very caring, very patient...This is the state of our NHS ( National Health Service ) what they do is PRIORITISE...Yes it didn't matter that they knew i was 71 and had Multiple Sclerosis...I do have to mention that i fell sideways and only just missing catching my head on the tiled fireplace hearth, had i have hit that, things could have been a whole lot worse, so God saved me from that...but as for our NHS, i think this is now our norm...our lengthy waits...And no, our UK NHS isn't free, we had to pay into it all through our working lives, then we we need it, where is it?

Vanilla-Jackie · June 30, 2022, 01:35:07 AM

Mary Page...
...oh, just re-read your above post, so sorry to hear of your hospital ordeal....You are right, no one likes being taken to hospital, nor the fact a hospital is where they might die in...just glad you was only in there for a short while, although a short while will seem like forever, as it did for me last year...Yes, this is our life now, all medical related appointments and letters dropping through our post regarding "assessments " for this and that which would be another very lengthy wait...only to be told they wont be offering it...this is our reality...
Mary Page, you are blessed to have so many family around you....i have no one ( no caring family ) apart from my caring church friends that have been taking care of, collecting me for our church do's, otherwise i am now housebound, alone and very lonely since i lost the only person who really cared about me, my Richard God bless him...

Marilyne · June 30, 2022, 10:56:05 AM

Mary Page - It must be so frightening to wake up, unable to breathe, and know that something is terribly wrong. I know you're grateful that Chip is there, and immediately does what needs to be done! As much as we dread time spent in the hospital, we are grateful for all they do for us to keep us going!
Here's hoping you are breathing easily today, and that that you will be feeling stronger every day.

Jackie - I also feel shocked that it took so long for the ambulance to get there, with the help you needed. I'm glad that you had friends from your church, who stayed with you until the professional help arrived. As Mary Page said, "None of us are getting any younger". From here on out we just do our best to make it through each day . . . always hoping for another day to follow.

Sandy · July 01, 2022, 11:01:04 AM

SorRy to here that Jackie fell and
had to wait a very long time to
get up.

Johann, I am sorry that your beloved
husband passed away.

MaryPage Glad to hear that you are back
from the hospital ... hope that they helped you
with your COPD.

And best wishes also to any one having
difficulties at this time.

I lost one of my best friends that I
have known for 50 years. She died of a
brain tumor, not related to lymphoma that
she had been struggling with for years..
(different DNA)
Losing a good friend is very difficult,
but something that seems to happen as we all
are aging.. I either lose them or they
lose me.

I hope that everyone has a good/better day
love SANDY

MaryPage · July 01, 2022, 08:58:11 PM

i am so sorry, Sandy Daphh. I know how it feels. My dearest friend of a lifetime, who lived just down at the end of the block from my home, which was at the other end of the same block, and our mothers played together as children and our grandmothers were friends, and we were born in the same year, died last August. It is so hard. My heart hurts for you.

Best love,

Mom

MarsGal · July 02, 2022, 07:42:45 AM

I apologize, Jackie, for not posting earlier. I saw your post and meant to get back but didn't. I cannot imagine waitng so long after notifying the emergency/medical authorities of your fall. That is seems way too long. I am glad you are okay.

Johann, it is nice to see you posting again.

MaryPage, I didn't know you have CPOD. That sucks. Sorry to hear it. My Aunt had CPOD, but that did not stop her from smoking, even while using the oxygen. Luckily she didn't blow herself up. My Dad had Interstitial Lung Disease and was also on oxygen. I had Bronchitis once (surprised I never got it again). It sure gave me a deep appreciation for being able to breathe well.

George passed away in January 2021. It seems so long ago, yet again, just yesterday.

Well, my kitchen flooring is picked out and ready for the contractor to pick up. The countertop is also picked out, the new faucet is here, and the cabinets were expected to arrive this week. The contractor is waiting on my new windows still and I am waiting until they get started with the work to order my dishwasher. I have some of my stuff moved out of the kitchen, but since work isn't to start until the week of July 10, I've slowed down. Some stuff is getting pitched, others are in the give-away pile, but most of my kitchenware is just getting packed up until I see how much extra space I have when the cabinets are finally in. I still have a bunch of baking pans, etc., but don't really expect to ever use them, sooooo, maybe I should just bite the bullet and get them out the door too.

Marilyne · July 02, 2022, 01:43:56 PM

MarsGal - Good to see your post his morning. Looks like your kitchen remodel is coming together really well. Glad you made a decision on the countertops and flooring. Did you get a new sink? I would sure love to get a new one here - mine is very old, worn, and hard to clean. I'd like to have one of those Farmhouse sinks that they show on the HGTV remodel shows. Something I will never have at this point in time, but I can dream! Plan to take some pictures of your kitchen when it's all finished, and post them over in Photos Old and New. I'd like very much to see the finished product!

I'm surprised to see that it's been a year and a half, since George passed away. The timing was so unfortunate for him . . . right before the Covid vaccinations became available.

Sandy - Sorry you lost such a dear friend. I know how it feels when all of your friends from the past are gone.
Hoping you have a nice 4th of July weekend ahead, and enjoy watching some of the festivities from your "window to the world"!
,

MaryPage · July 02, 2022, 02:02:33 PM

My daughter Elizabeth is being featured by her gallery this 4th of July weekend. What fun for her! What Joy for the whole family.

And my 28th grandbaby is being christened this weekend. I am unable to attend, but yearn to be there with them all.

https://seasideart.com/collections/elizabeth-elgin

MarsGal · July 02, 2022, 06:44:31 PM

Marilyne, the vaccines were available here, but he didn't get one. They did a "close the barndoor after the cow gets out" thing and gave him one even though he already caught it. He ended up with the pneumonia, and then they discovered that he had had two strokes. I would much rather have him still around than a new kitchen.

Speaking of, yes, I am getting a new sink AND a garbage disposal too. Along with the replacement windows, there will be a new porch door featuring a pet door for the cats. They deserve something out of this too. The guys are also dry walling over the old plaster and stuffing insulation into the walls because this old house was never insulated. There is an open gap at the back and side of the sink area, and I can see the studding and the old weatherboard, but no insulation stuffed between the studs. Oh, and they will add more electric outlets and make sure the ones already there are good.

Other projects waiting in line include a new basement door and new casement windows, a new tub sink by the washer, the front and "media" rooms will likely get the rug ripped up and new flooring laid down (or existing floor refurbished). Then there is still the yard that needs work, including removing some shrubs. And then there is the upstairs. All the walls need redone, and the wood floor needs sanded and restained.

I don't know how much of all this I will actually get done before one of the cats goes and I can get an apartment, so I am all on one floor and no yard to deal with.

Nice paintings, MaryPage. I particularly like the Barn Cats and the Red Admiral on Daisies.

Marilyne · July 03, 2022, 11:30:26 AM

MarsGal - when the kitchen remodel is completed, you may change your mind about moving into an apartment? It will be such a pleasure to use and enjoy all the new appliances, counter tops, flooring, etc. Will be even more comfortable if you go ahead with the rest of your house plans. I know the yard is hard for you to maintain, and won't get any easier over time. We have a difficult time keeping up with both our front and back yards, and there are two of us to deal with it.
I remember now, that George had a lot of other serious health problems that appeared as a result of Covid. It seemed to all come on at once, and overwhelmed him.

MaryPage · July 03, 2022, 12:11:14 PM

MarsGal, it all sounds just too wonderful for words to me! And of course you would rather have your beloved companion back to sharing your days with you; I totally understand that. I am not one to make a big do about Bob being missing from my life, but I never stop thinking of him, either. I just don't like to discolor other people's time spent with me by weeping & wailing about poor pitiful me. Not much fun for them. Bottom line, Bob & I wanted to go on together through all Time. We could not. No fuss will help the simple reality of it all.

I, too, find great solace in the HGTV programs. I especially take comfort & Joy in those identical twin brother redecorates. Who knew they would be the heroes of my Old Age tastes in TV. But they are. They never upset or worry me: just give me a very pleasurable sense of excitement with no worries attached. I find I also love a show on PBS called ESCAPE TO THE COUNTRY. I crave going through every room and seeing how other people live. Honestly, I would have told you you were daft if you had told me I would get my jollies this way one day; but I do!

And yes, I love, love, love those new, deep sinks they are putting in these days. Would LOVE to have one. And I do love the new open space plans. And the muted pastel colors with lots and lots of light. Lovely way to live.

So I appreciate your sharing your go-along with your changes. I am avid for every sentence you write, so do, please, keep us informed as things move along for you!

Marilyne · July 03, 2022, 12:58:31 PM

Mary Page - Seeing your message reminds me that I forgot to tell you how much I enjoyed looking at your granddaughter Elizabeth's art show! My favorite is the lone seagull. I've always been partial to seagulls, and enjoy watching them gliding and sailing through the sky, when I'm spending a day or evening at the beach. So carefree and graceful!

I also enjoy watching many of the HGTV home shows, and find them informative and relaxing. My favorite show is, Home Town, from Mississippi, with Ben and Erin Napier. They seem like such a genuinely nice loving couple, and I especially like that they are focused on historic renovation, and the history of their town. So the old homes are remodeled to look like the era when they were originally built. I used to watch Chip and Joanna, in their original show from Waco, Texas. Loved seeing their four children (now five!) in every show. I haven't seen their new show, so don't know what it's like?

MaryPage · July 03, 2022, 03:58:12 PM

Marilyne, thank you, and it is not really all that important, but Elizabeth is my daughter. I stress that fact because she will be 74 this September, and None of my 13 granddaughters has attained that great age as yet. My oldest granddaughters, two of them, were born in 1966.

Denver · July 04, 2022, 08:21:29 PM

🇺🇸HAPPY 4th of JULY🇺🇸

Delighted to read the posts to see how you ALL are doing🦋🦋

First off, MARYPAGE, I am saddened that you had a trip to the hospital but am glad you were able to return home quickly. So blessed to have Chip there to get you help immediately 🦋
I loved seeing the art site of Elizabeth's. I have shared it with my dear life long friend who is also a artist as I know she, too, will enjoy seeing her work. Her art is lovely. Thank you for sharing😘

JACKIE, I can not believe the length of time you had to stay on the floor after your fall. My son, Dr. Dave was telling me how dangerous it is to be on the ground for so long......especially for you with MS. I am just so sad that you had to endure this😩🙏

MARSGAL, I am enjoying your updates so much as you progress through your remodel. I can't be anymore proud of you for all you have been able to accomplish on your own. Bob and I want to do a remodel in the worse way, but we just are frightened to death of the process of get started, picking out materials, etc. and so we continue to avoid the subject😩‼️ Good luck to you getting through this job🥰

SANDY, I am sad for you that you have lost your life long friend. These changes on our lives are just not that easy to accept and I wish you the best for n doing so😩

MARILYN, bless your heart.....you are always so understanding and supportive of EVERY friend in this group. I, too, enjoy the remodeling shows......I just wish it were as easy as it looks for them to get things done😘. I hope you and AJ are with family this holiday weekend.

Sadly, it has been extremely stressful these past few days. My Dear Dad is not doing well at all. He is very confused and extremely stubborn by not wanting the help that he and Diane need. The paramedics have been to their home daily for one of them and we are so thankful that this service is available. My dad is now in hospice, however with it being a holiday weekend it has been very difficult to get very much accomplished. The first time the medics checked my dad out, they were ALL shocked to see how great his vitals are. He is a very healthy man in a extremely declining body😩😩
The hospital where they live is not accepting ANY patients unless it is a life threatening situation 😩😡. My brother is in the process of finding a care home for him and nothing can be done until tomorrow for getting this accomplished. When the nurse arrived to stay the night there with them; they BOTH refused to open the door and let him in. Ugh‼️ My father is not going to allow anyone to take him out of his home with out them sedating him and I fear for the following repercussions. I pray that our good Lord will take him home where he truly wants to be😢🙏

Diane rolled out of bed onto the floor around one AM. She was
on the ground until just after 6 when my dad finally woke up to hear her. He takes Ambien to sleep and he is truly dead to the world😩
Paramedics came and got her up and she was OK, so no trip to the hospital🥰

I had a phone call......set this aside and forgot all about it. It is 7 hours later and by some miracle it was still on my screen.

Have a great evening.

Jenny

Shirley · July 04, 2022, 11:38:05 PM

A quick comment on this 4th of July, Jenny, I am so sad for you right now. When Cas' mother reached the stage your father & Diane are in, she had Hospice care in the home that took care of all her needs. She had bought herself the adjustable bed so that was a big help. Her other (adopted son) lived with her and we stayed for a couple months, coming home only to take care of mail & bills twice during that time... can't praise enough the Hospice care because she wanted no part of being in a hospital or nursing care. Is there no way to make that happen for them? I know, you've thought of everything... but you do have my sincere sympathy & prayers. I was going to send you e-mail but know there are times when we don't even have a few minutes to check that but THIS family does get checked, right? Hugs to all of you. Shirley

Vanilla-Jackie · July 05, 2022, 12:59:57 AM

Jenny...
...i hope and pray your father gets his wishes....is taken home where " he truly wants to be "
...oh another on the floor for 6 hours..." Diane, " it brings on home our reality...Glad to hear no injuries and no trip to hospital...
....I wish your Doctor Dave was my Doctor...someone who understand the complications and seriousness of PP-MS...it is good to know someone cares about me, even if miles away...wish i could say the same for our NHS...we are just a number, we just become a burden..

MarsGal · July 05, 2022, 06:06:35 AM

Sounds like you have enough stress already, Jenny. Doing a remodel would only add to it. Your Dad refusing overnight help for fear of being moved has got to be adding even more stress. I agree with Shirley regarding in home hospice care. They are a big help even if they only visit a few hours a week.

so_P_bubble · July 05, 2022, 08:08:52 AM

new game: find ...

https://www.seniorsandfriends.org/village-clubhouse~place-for-fun!/trivia-quiz-and-more-games/msg220343/#msg220343

Marilyne · July 05, 2022, 11:56:55 PM

Dear JENNY - I was here earlier, but didn't see your message until now - 24 hours since you wrote it!

I'm so sorry to see all of the bad news about your Dad.
It's so painful when there is a sudden serious decline in the health of one of our parents, and there is nothing we can do to make it easier for them! I'm glad he's agreed to hospice, and can only hope that he doesn't suddenly change his mind. It's good that your brother has stepped in, and I hope he's successful in finding a good care home.

What a shame that in the midst of all of your Dad's problems, that Diane fell out of bed, and had no way to call the paramedics! She has been such a help over the years for your Dad, and I know you're grateful that she has been there for him, and continues to help the best she can.

I will be saying a prayer for both of them, that everything will work out the way it's meant to be.

Denver · July 08, 2022, 11:02:08 AM

A good Friday morning HELLO to ALL.

I have just managed to get logged in here again. I am sure it is my issue that I can not stay logged in, but for the life of me I can not figure it out.

I have just read read the wonderful and supportive comments JACKIE,SHIRLEY, MARSGAL and MARLYN. I am in tears of joy the loving and supportive words you have given to me. 🦋

Things are very sad right now in my world. My dad, who lives in Arizona is not doing well at all. My hubby and I are STUCK here in Colorado dealing with our own medical issues and want to get to my dad ASAP. As awful as it is to admit this and try to accept it, we just can not go right now‼️ I am getting very upsetting phone calls from old friends/neighbors telling me how awful I am for not being there. I do not need to be told as I am fully aware of what this might look like to others. God as my witness, travel is not possible right now. My brother has all of the legal rights that my dad gave to him because HE is the son and his generation thinks that women have no business being in charge😡

I am thankful for all of you online friends.....take care and stay safe.

Jenny

Vanilla-Jackie · July 08, 2022, 11:20:52 AM

Jenny...
...i feel your frustration, you cant be in two places at the same time, no matter how much you want to be...but, please dont live with regrets...Who needs " old " friends - neighbours like these if they truly cant understand your situation for what it is.....

RAMMEL · July 08, 2022, 11:25:03 AM

I totally agree with Jackie above.

Denver · July 08, 2022, 11:35:17 AM

Again......I thank you for the supportive words, JACKIE and RAMMEL 🦋🦋

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